Welcome to the Elementary STEM Coach Podcast. I’m your host Naomi Meredith, a former classroom teacher turned K-5 STEM teacher and coach. With over a decade of experience teaching and a master’s degree in STEM leadership, I’m here to coach you throughout the year to help you gain back more time to create innovative experiences for your students.

All right, well thank you Bree so much for being here today. I’m so excited to have you as a guest because we’ve connected in lots of different ways and we met at a conference I think in Colorado at an ENCO in Breckenridge and you were in one of my sessions and then a few years later I still currently teach right now a STEM club at your school and I like walked in your class like a few weeks ago. I’m like oh my gosh like you’re teaching my whole STEM survival camp unit and the kids are telling me about it and you kind of had it decorated with tents and you have the fire and I had to tell kids in my club to get out of the tent like that’s Miss Smith tent like get out of there so I was like oh my gosh I would love to hear how it goes in your class because it’s one of those things that as you know being a STEM teacher you’re the only one in your building teaching it and so you don’t always know how things are going or like what other people are doing so I’m like cannot wait to talk to you about this because I wanted to ask you more before we start recording we’re like no we need to get this on audio but yes before we do that yeah if you wouldn’t mind telling us more about you and what you teach and also a little snapshot about your schedule um how often you see kids all right well my name is Brie Smith and I teach kindergarten through fifth grade and I teach STEAM so we have the A for Art at Redstone Elementary in Highlands Ranch Colorado this is my fourth year currently that we’re in in this role prior to that I was an intermediate teacher mostly in fifth grade I did that for six years and then I stayed home with my kids for eight years and so I came back to teaching right before COVID it was the worst time to come back so I was teaching part-time computer science and the school shut down and they were the kids were spending their entire day on the screens and I it didn’t feel right with me to give them more digital assignments and so I started giving them STEAM challenges at home with materials that they had around the house and they loved it and so that’s kind of when it clicked for me how important those skills are the creativity the problem solving the resilience it was things that they were naturally during using during those STEAM challenges so after that crazy year I set out to build a full STEAM program at my school so I proposed the idea to my principal and vice principal and they were so supportive and on board so then I presented to staff and then PTO and everyone was on board and so I wrote a couple grants to get it funded and now here we are so it’s grown into something so much bigger than I have ever imagined and it’s so fun to see how it’s impacting the students so I see kids on a weekly rotation every third week so we have PE music and then STEAM and then my classes are 45 minutes long and I see six classes a day so kindergarten through fifth each day so that’s about me and my schedule okay I had no idea you kind of like created your position I did I had no idea that’s like a whole other podcast because that’s a whole other thing we could talk about that another time because like that’s pretty cool because you were already hired as computer science like that was your title and then yeah let’s switch it up right and the timing worked out well because our art teacher who was the third rotation she was retiring and so and that’s when I saw you at in EDCO that was like I just got in that position I was like trying to get prepared for that first year so yeah and it’s it’s a lot it’s like I have a brand new position you’re creating this whole program right and it’s like all new to you because you have teaching experience which is so helpful but it is a whole other world in STEM and I don’t remember what I presented about I was it STEM survival camp no it wasn’t I think it was just kind of like the logistics and stuff which is so important and like your favorite my favorite quote of yours is like how we’re like the fun aunt planning a birthday party six times a day because that’s literally how it feels like the energy level is like you have to just be excited every class but I will say after my second year teaching STEAM I gave all my general like classroom supplies away and I don’t I don’t think I’m ever going back to the gen ed class so that’s yeah you’re committed you are committed yeah and her room is so cute you’re gonna have to send me some pictures I love it’s just so warm and cozy and like you can tell there’s just so much creativity in there it’s so she’s like this cute rainbow she painted on a pegboard and then like all like she I really like you have um like all the reusable blocks and stuff but then you have them color-coded for what types of projects they can be used for like you have like really cool things going on in your classroom and um you can tell like the kids love it in there and create and have such a fun time um so it’s so fun like going in there everyone’s like oh I like walk around like oh look at all this fun stuff but that’s what I saw I’m like oh my gosh it’s STEM survival camp so what made you decide um to do some survival camp because I did mine like the same time like back to school-ish time um so what made you decide to teach it and when do you teach it so like how do you um set that up because you do see kids for the whole week every the same kids every single day for a week which I did so yeah how did you decide to do that and then like how do you how did you set it up for your kids okay well I mean we live in Colorado so I feel like it’s a natural fit um but I love camping and like honestly my favorite shows are alone and naked and afraid and all that stuff so it just like totally fit my personality um and I’ve been teaching it every year since I started the program and I just love it um and so when I teach it so I usually have the first round of kids we go over the rules and expectations and the routines um but then after that our first unit is survival STEAM um and I do it first through fifth grade um and I tried my kindergarten but when it’s so early in the year I realized they’re just learning how to be students um and I take the outside to collect materials and yeah learn from experience so um so now I just do first through fifth grade um and I chose to teach STEAM survival at that time for a couple reasons the first is they are so engaged um and so you mentioned I set up my classroom so I have this big like I got off Amazon it’s this big like kind of fabric that has the mountains in the background and then I have a clay collapsible tent and then I have a little campfire that I illuminate with a flashlight and I turn the lights off and then I invite the kids in for their first day and they’re like oh it’s STEAM survival so all the kids that have been here in the past get so excited and all the new kids are like wait what why is there a campfire why is there a tent um and the first graders they get so excited because this is their first they’ve heard about it but this is their first round doing it so for me it’s engagement from the beginning um but then also it sets up skills that are really important for the rest of the year um so I really hit planning hard um during this unit and I use your rubric for the four star plan um and so we really dive in and go slow as we’re planning for STEAM survival um and I just have a quick story so I was explaining to the kids like you need to have these were fifth graders you need to have two different views of your shelter um and maybe a bird’s eye view so I just like threw that out there and then a girl came up to me she had finished her plan and she had drawn her shelter but had a bird flying over it because she didn’t understand what a bird’s eye view was and I was like see this is why it’s so good that we’re going slow so we can go fast and so we stopped and explained like oh a bird’s eye view is when you’re like you know flying like a bird and you like look down you know so that whole thing but it was just really good to like know that yeah we got to slow down and do this at the beginning so we have success later in the year um and then the teamwork skills that come with STEAM survival are huge and that’s a great way to start off and so we talk about how to work in a team we talk about what to do if someone isn’t helping on your team um I have like three steps that they go through we talk about the difference between being a leader and being bossy and so we go through that so it just really sets up the collaboration skills um and then overall the general just engineering skills like how do you manage supplies I only give out like 12 inches of tape so how are you gonna use it um managing your time like the kids that are making the game from the land they get so into it and they just want to build these elaborate things I’m like you guys only have a day like we do one build day um I’m like so you gotta like manage your time wisely um and then also like how to test and improve and all that so all those things come with the same survival and they just really set up my class for a year of success when we do it at the very beginning I love hearing that so much because I saw the same thing when I started doing it I started teaching it well probably not too long before you because um I created it in 2020 so we were going back in the fall because um I was also watching a lot alone I’ve camped a lot I have a lot of experience camping I just don’t do it a lot as a grown-up um but I can um I can do it I have a I have a stun trailer so I can do it um I was the same way but I the I created it because we actually couldn’t share supplies and um we I was like well let’s bring the kids out as much as possible and so that’s why I create I’m like I’m gonna do it for one year and I have the same reaction as your kids like we have to do it every year and so they are like so excited and um I keep doing it and I taught a few of them in my STEM camps now just for one day so I really just hit hard on the creation but I love how you focused in on the planning but all the skills that come with it um I love that so much like hearing the progression and since you’ve done it every year like you said the kids are excited have you seen like their skills kind of just keep building off of each other a little bit oh yeah like um especially specifically with the planning like my fifth graders um they’re so good at it now and then also the biggest thing I’ve seen is the improvement in the resiliency um like when I first started they cried all the time and being an intermediate teacher I’m like we don’t cry like why are we crying you know and so I’ve really worked to build those skills and the STEAM survival is awesome because you know they’re building with sticks and tape and it doesn’t work they don’t stick you know and so they have to be resilient have to keep trying we’re gonna dump water on it we’re gonna blow it over that’s okay you know and so we talk it’s more about the process not your final product but you can really see the skills are finally building after like in my fourth year I’m like yes all that hard work I’ve done for three years is really paying off so I’m so glad you mentioned that I had the same same experience like kids like why why don’t we get all the tape we want like they would cry all the time like I’m all because you I mean when you think about it and how important STEM is and STEAM um and you’re in your fourth year but what the kids are typically doing most kids from what I’ve seen they’re not doing this kind of stuff as often as they should be at home and so when you’re building with and all the technology skills are important too that’s a whole other thing but um like the tangible like things you’ve never dealt with before like I don’t know how to do I’m like well everything new is hard at first how would you know I tell kids like you wouldn’t know I made this up like I made this whole thing out of my brain so you probably haven’t done it before because it’s made up so yeah it makes sense you don’t know what to do yeah but I love hearing like where you’re at with STEAM that you’re like seeing like oh my gosh like you’re building upon that and um all the skills are growing have you seen any other successes with it you’ve said so many amazing things like any other cool successes yeah so many so many but um one of them was that um there’s a lot of students even living in Colorado that don’t like to go outside and um so and they’re not comfortable they love to be on their screens you know and so um the way I set it up is like Monday is building background knowledge Tuesday is planning Wednesday is going outside to get the materials Thursday’s building and Friday is um test and share so on Wednesday we go outside and collect materials and so um the way our school is set up is like our we have a big property but then just behind our property is like a walking trail and there’s a big field so that’s where we go to get um our materials and I I’m close enough I have a walkie you know so I can still get a hold of people but um so in the years past I would have kids that just stayed on the sidewalk with me they would not venture into the field they were afraid about they were afraid of snakes they were afraid of bugs they were afraid of grasshoppers um afraid of ticks I mean I’m allergic you know and so but every year less and less kids have been staying back with me on the sidewalk they have been yeah being brave and going out there and it’s like it’s feeling more comfortable to them um and so I just think that’s a huge success because I mean we live in such a beautiful state like get out and enjoy it so um and I do have to say and I had texted you but we every year we see a snake and we did see one this year and um it’s kind of like the highlight the class was like it was third graders like we saw the snake because it’s like a big deal to see a snake but we also talk about snake safety I mean living in Colorado I had a snake living in my front yard so it’s like it’s part of um our world and it’s their habitat and so we talk about snake safety um and so they will tell me oh I was hiking over summer and I saw a snake and I did exactly what you told me to so yeah so that was yeah so that’s a little fun thing um and then with that just over the summer when they go camping um they tell me how they built the real life thing so they’re like oh I built a real life shelter that I could fit in me and my brother would hang out in there or um you know one kid was like I did a bear hang um um when we were up in in the woods and so it just it’s just so cool to see it like bark something like translate um and then probably my most favorite one is um comes from the sewing of backpack and I have to say I was like that was my least popular like and I think teachers are scared about sewing and I’m so excited to hear what your experience I was terrified so I think I did it for two years and I didn’t do that one and then I was like okay I gotta do it and so I chose a class size that at the time one was small I think there was like maybe 20 kids in that in that um grade level for each class and then um I all and they were they’re pretty competent you know so like I knew that they could handle it um because you know every year or every grade they’re like yeah these guys are really with it and or these guys need more support you know so I knew that this class was the one to try it on and so we did it and I learned a lot but I loved it so much I was actually really surprised how much I loved it and they turned out so great and I have to tell you the kids loved it and I had one I had one um fifth grader yeah I think it was last year um she was kind of like it was hard for her to make friends and she was kind of introverted um and she loved the sewing unit so much she went and had her mom take her to like Hobby Lobby and she was sewing all these things and bringing it back and all the other girls were like oh my gosh that’s so cool and so it was like a bridge for her to have friends through the sewing unit so yeah and then um I have like a like I’m obsessed with sloths I have a bunch of stuff yeah you are I did notice that actually like I think she likes sloths oh yeah I do I love them but um so the the girls would go home and sew my sloth stuffies like different items and stuff because they love the sewing so much so that is probably my most favorite when and it came from the unit that I was most terrified to teach yeah and I I was shocked too by the sewing because like I it’s based off of the show alone so everything that you do and I alone is maybe not so much for kids I always like what are your parents discretion um but everything in there and I’m like the sewing um a lot of them use sewing in different ways like they might not necessarily be sewing their backpack however so many of them are sewing up a hole in their shirt like they’re out in the wilderness they can’t fix it some of them are sewing their shelter it’s actually a good skill it’s a great skill for life simple simple basic mending hand stitches I had a lot of kids I don’t know if you had kids say this but um with their boy scout or girl scout patches they’re like I can sew my patches now oh no one’s ever told me that that’s yeah I had quite a few kids like I can sew my patches now I’m like that’s awesome and I have videos in there too like uh so anyone who’s like I don’t know how to sew it’s literally like two three basic stitches the videos were like essential because I am not a sewer and that’s kind of what intimidated me but we like I learned with the kids and so we would play it and we would just like practice it and then once they got it they got it you know and now now I’m like almost a pro yeah like I know all these stitches I’m also not a sewer I did work at Build-A-Bear in college and the bears already have the string on there and you have to pull the strings and then you tie a knot but when you pull them sometimes the string would come out so I actually learned a different stitch that’s not in those videos but um yeah it is an interesting one and I think some teachers avoid it but it’s actually not that bad that one takes the longest but it’s also really fun and like you said a life skill yeah and they’re just so proud of it like they like would carry it around with them and just and they were just so proud so yeah and you don’t need sewing machines that’s what I like too because I always wanted them in my class but I never had them and so hand stitching it is it’s perfect I love it yeah um so anything else about the lessons or any tips or tricks or if a teacher was on the fence um with this because I know there are six lessons and I like how you even said I tried it with kinder just wasn’t the right time for them so even if someone started it in mid-year they might be ready I saw that too with some kinders too I would maybe do one day with kinder and then we’re doing some other stuff but right right um but any like a teacher’s like I’m not a camper I don’t know like what what would you say to them well first to start with some tips and tricks um if you can I just really encourage you to go outside it is such a fun engaging thing for the kids and it’s really a good behavior incentive because it’s the beginning of the year right we’re doing the plans and everything and I’m like you must have your plan done and it must be a four-star plan and you must follow all my other rules if you want to go outside and so being it that it’s midweek on Wednesday I mean I’ve never had to you know stick anyone in the office while we go outside so just going outside and just being you know with nature and um we’ve seen so many besides the snakes we’ve seen some really cool um like praying mantises you know it’s just it’s just fun you know kids love to be outside so that is one I would highly recommend obviously it’s all dependent on the weather but that’s why I do it at the beginning of the year because it’s nice um and then bringing all that nature back in gets very very messy yes I’m sure you noticed that when you came you’re like oh my god I stopped giving them bags I’m like because they’re just putting scoops of dirt I’m like no you got to carry it with your hands well that’s and I said don’t put in your pocket you don’t make baskets out of your shirt it’s like the only your two hands and so I got um tidy tubs so they’re like little trash cans that I put on each of the different table groups and so I and I had to explicitly teach them sweep your nature crumbs into the tidy tub and then they would leave it so I’m like carry your tidy tub to the trash can but that’s really helped um with the mess because I tell them I’m like you guys it looks like nature threw up in our room like we got to clean it up um I’m sure the cleaning crew like hates my classroom but um so it is very messy but it is worth it um and then just a couple of the actual units um the fishing pole one that one I really had to learn um by trial and error so my first year I did it with first graders I we went and got our sticks and I gave them the tape and I said okay just make your fishing pole and they did not have the skills and so um one thing could not tie the string to the paper clip and then like they were trying to tape it but their spatial skills weren’t quite there so instead of going into like taping a long pole they were doing it like doubled and so it wasn’t very long so I have learned that we have to go step by step with that so we get our supplies and then on Thursday under the document camera um I explain and model everything and so I start by their tape I give them about eight inches and I just hang it from their tables um and so each kid has their own tape and then they each have their own scissors and so I always start with okay first you need to measure the tape the tape should be about as long as your finger and then you cut it from the bottom because they would try to cut it from the top cut it from the and then you lay it sticky side up and then I create the image like oh we’re going to put two siblings we’re going to tuck them into bed so one head goes here the other head goes there their feet are sticking out and then we tuck them in tuck them in with the tape and so but you have like I had to be so explicit step by step and then there are some kids who just catch on and I’m like okay go you know but most of the kids stay with me and we connect three sticks so it’s um so it’s doing that twice and then um I say if you can tie tie your hook on but otherwise we tape it we tape everything sometimes I have to go around and just like reinforce the tape but the fact that they were able to do it by themselves they were so they’re so proud I mean it might be like droopy but they did it you know so I’ll go around and just kind of reinforce with duct tape or stronger tape but so that is like a tip for the first grade yeah yeah yeah and and then now they know how to measure tape that they had to use tape like it’s a huge skill um but again it sets us up for the rest of the year so and we’re doing bioluminescent animals now which is when they ever like they got the tape down like you don’t go slow to go fast so so um for crossing the river I originally say you don’t get any new supplies like you just get what you get in your basket that’s all the tape you get use it wisely um but then when they’re testing I bring in a bucket of water and when they test everything gets wet and so at the end of our first build day so that’s Thursday um I say okay I’ll give you new tape tomorrow because everything’s wet yeah um and so then on Friday they get like I don’t know 15 minutes to finish building and get ready to show and then they can have new tape um because it was just a soggy mess but they have to test like yes I know I did the same thing but it’s like good how you say it later so they’re not like counting on it I know you’re like okay now I’ll give you some now you can’t and then the other one was just the the sewing like just don’t be afraid of it and then um I tried like getting the um kids safe did not work so I I agree I had the same experience yeah yeah yeah and it’s like you know if they can handle a hot glue gun and they know how to be safe it’s just another tool so I just go over how to be safe with it and um that we haven’t had any issues um and then I the thicker thread is important because it just kids will just like pull it through yes um so that is helpful and then um I also got fabric squares that are already cut because I was just getting huge sheets and then having to cut it for all three classes and it took me forever so I just get the fabric squares off Amazon but then also like the kids love to bring in their own fabric which I was really surprised about but they want they want a certain pattern so they will take their parents to like Hobby Lobby Walmart and get their own fabric so um I’ve only had to buy out of the years one um one like group of fabric squares off Amazon everything else has been through donation so oh cool that’s cool yeah I love that wow and then um if a teacher is on the fence I just it’s just one of those units where the kids just light up and they’re just so excited and engaged because it feels real and it feels a little adventurous I mean think of the adventure they get in their life at school every day it’s pretty boring but this is exciting and adventurous um and it’s just so fun to get to see them problem solve and think critically and collaborate with each other um and then it really brings out strengths in kids that you might not normally see um in a church like doing traditional STEAM challenges or just the traditional classroom um that I had a quiet kid he was a fifth grader and he just kind of was in the back of everything just went along but then for STEAM survival he had so much background knowledge and he stepped up and I was just blown away and I I told him I’m like it is so cool to see this side of you he’s like I love it I just love it and like oh that’s cool I know but it like I wouldn’t have seen it if I didn’t do some survival um so it’s hands-on it’s messy it’s super creative but it’s the kind of learning that they’re going to be talking about um for years to come you know and like I’ve had parents come and say oh I was showing like a bear got into you know my grandma’s house and so I was showing my kid a video of the ring you know but it’s because it’s real life in Colorado but yeah but they’re just they’re talking about it at home with their parents they remember it um and it’s just as fun for me as it is for them so I just encourage everyone to give it a shot.

I love it that’s like so crazy like like I said like I I knew I had fun teaching it and I’ve taught it even again recently outside with my trailer for two hours and we were in nature we actually tested the fishing poles oh in a pond oh my gosh so cool yes I’ve never done that like we have paper ones um that I do but we did it in a pond and a kid caught a fish job oh my gosh and a real fishing pole in the pond with his use his created one. That’s so funny she caught a fish a fishing pole a fishing pole but it is so crazy like I know how fun it is but like hearing I love how it’s like like a tradition in your program which is so cool like it’s like making me tear up because it’s like so like cool hearing that like how excited you are teaching you like have fun with it and things you probably add every year or kids are like oh my sibling did this one and I can’t wait to do it so that it’s like so cool to hear your whole experience and like yeah like when we have twins in the opposite classes they’re like I know what we’re you know they’re just so they’re like I know what we’re doing you know yeah they just come in and they’re ready to go it’s just so fun oh I love this it’s a fun it’s like one of my favorites to teach slash I’m like the most proud of but I’m so glad it’s like successful for you like I love it so much but it’s so fun um I’m sure other teachers love hearing about it and they probably have other questions like there’s other like good like nuggets that you said um but if teachers wanted to reach out to you what would be the best place for them to find you and we’ll put in the show notes yeah so I well I have a classroom Instagram and so you can actually I just posted a bunch of pictures because we just wrapped up that unit so um I have a bunch of pictures of um the fishing the kids fishing and all that stuff so um they can check it out on Instagram it’s it’s kind of a long one but it’s rse mile high steam um is my Instagram and you can just message me on there it’s probably the easiest way but I’m happy to answer any questions because like you I’m just so passionate about it and um it just it gives me so much joy to talk about and to teach it so yeah I teach a bunch of units and I always I line up the kids