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How The Bug Chicks Make STEM Fun and Fearless with Entomologists Kristie Reddick & Jessica Honaker [ep.176]

How The Bug Chicks Make STEM Fun and Fearless with Entomologists Kristie Reddick & Jessica Honaker [ep.176]

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Episode Summary

I’m sitting down with two incredible women in STEM, Kristie Reddick and Jessica Honaker—also known as The Bug Chicks! These two amazing entomologists have a passion for bugs and an even bigger passion for teaching kids and educators how to use insects as a powerful learning tool.

Kristie and Jessica share their fascinating journey from grad school to building a career that inspires others to see the beauty and importance of bugs in our world. We chat about everything from conquering fears to making STEM more approachable through hands-on experiences. Whether it’s using bugs to teach social-emotional skills or simply sparking curiosity, The Bug Chicks have so much wisdom to share.

Meet Kristie Reddick & Jessica Honaker, The Bug Chicks:

Kristie Reddick and Jessica Honaker are The Bug Chicks – entomologists, educators and scicomm professionals who work at the intersection of STEM and social-emotional learning. They teach about the incredible world of arthropods and specialize in using these incredible animals as a vehicle to help people foster empathy for themselves, others and the natural world. They are the creators and developers of the DIFFERENT: STEM + SEL curriculum, an award-winning, evidence-based program aimed at creating a positive mindset shift in students. They received their Master’s degrees from Texas A&M University. Kristie’s research focused on the biodiversity and biology of solifugae arachnids and Jessica’s work focused on the effects of black margined aphids in agroecosystems.

 

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Episode Transcript: 

Today, I have a special treat for you and I am so excited for you to hear from today's guests. Today, I am chatting with Kristie Reddick and Jessica Honaker, who are also known as the Bug Chicks. If you haven't heard of these wonderful, amazing women in STEM, then head on over to my kid podcast, The STEM Career Quest, and they are in episode two of season one, where they tell kids all about being entomologists, their journey into their career, and all the amazing cool things that they get to do when exploring with bugs.

 

But they don't just play with bugs all day. You are going to be hearing from Jessica and Chrissy, where they explain how bugs and insects are a teaching tool, but it is so much more than that. We can literally talk for hours.

 

We always talk a lot before we hit record and after we hit record. They are just so much fun. I told them if they are nearby where I live in Colorado, I would love to go see them in person.

But they are doing so many amazing things in the science education space, where they are influencing those positive mindsets and experiences for both students and for teachers. There are so many amazing takeaways in this episode. Their philosophy and education and what science can be definitely aligns with what I believe in as an educator.

 

I am so excited for you to hear it from them, the bug chicks, Chrissy and Jessica. You are definitely going to love this episode. 

 

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Naomi Meredith: Well, thank you so much for coming back onto the elementary stem coach podcast this time I had both of you as guests on my stem career, quest, podcast and you are our inaugural episode. So that is really, really fun episode, episode, 2, episode, one is about the podcast but if you guys haven't listened to it, it's really really fun episode. But today we're actually talking to you

 

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Naomi Meredith: teachers on the other side of things. So if you both wouldn't mind introducing yourselves in a briefly what you are all about.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Yeah, for sure. My name is Christy Redick. I am one of the bug chicks. Jessica and I are entomologists. We got our master's degrees in entomology from Texas, A and M. University. And we started working together in grad school and we we knew that science, education and using our

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: using our. How do I say this, using our friendship, like our friendship, got really really strong and solid when we were in grad school? Because I brought Jessica with me to Kenya for part of my research, and we like filmed, and we like lived in a tent for 6 months. It was a big. It was a big deal. And we became besties.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And we thought, Let's work together. And let's teach and make videos and inspire kids to get into science, and also inspire people to feel capable.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: I think, feeling capable in learning and feeling capable, especially in the sciences, is super important and and we use bugs to do that. So we use bugs to help people get over their fears and to help people feel capable.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: And my name is Jessica Honaker. I'm the other bug chick and, like Christy mentioned, we met in grad school. And we do both have research backgrounds, and and I. And I do wanna add, I think, that I think that one of the ways that we're really able to connect with teachers and with students about bugs is that Christy used to be super afraid of spiders. I used to be kind of like apathetic toward them.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: And we both kind of came to this realization that, you know, like arthropods and insects and spiders, and like, they're all super important. And everybody feels really strongly about them one way or the other. And so it's a really good connection point for us. In teaching being able to like, bring the science and the emotion in

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: to to our work.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Yeah, we work at the cross section of stem and social emotional learning. So there's so much emotion when you're trying to feel capable when you are feeling afraid of the subject, when you are feeling afraid of bugs or afraid of your own potential. And so it all blends together really, really, beautifully. And it's and because we're so enthusiastic about bugs it, we sort of sort of talk about it like we're erosion. You know, we just

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: we're just gonna wear you down. And then, underneath all of our sort of fortresses that we build up, I think there's some real wonder and some joy for the natural world, and bugs can really bring that out of people.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Absolutely, and I know not every single subject in science classes are all insects, but there are

 

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Naomi Meredith: units. KI know, and I know off the top of my head. K, through 5. Everybody has some sort of environmental science or learning about life cycles or those types of things. So there are definitely connections when it comes to bugs. And you talked about this just a little bit. But why do you think learning about entomology is important for kids, and I know you're so passionate about it. But why do you think so? Because you do teach kids in schools in person. So what have you seen and noticed.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Well, you cannot move through this world as a human being without interacting with arthropods. This is the great thing about them, like there is not one human on the planet who has not had an interaction with an arthropod. And so it's 1 of those things, kind of like food or music that brings us together as humans, even though, like at that point, I don't even care if people are afraid, or if they're interested, it is a connection point. The other thing is that

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: arthropods. And let's just say insects, for right now they really do

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: create and drive the world forward.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: They. They create the healthy soils that grow our food, they pollinate, they decompose. They are, you know, even the predator systems are so vitally important, and they provide a food source for all of these other animals that people so easily profess that they love. And so I just think that insects are vitally important to not just

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: the ecosystems that we walk around in, but also they have shaped human culture and human design and human inspiration. Since the since the dawn of human civilization. So I just think we don't recognize them. But they are ever present and very, very important.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Yeah, they do. They do thankless work for us so that we can. We can exist on this planet. And there's a really great quote, that goes something along the lines of if humans were to disappear, the earth would flourish. But if Arthur but if insects were to disappear like we would be toast. That's.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: I don't think toasts are in for that quote.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: I know that EO. Wilson said toast.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: But that's the, you know.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: The gist.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: General gist.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Really, like.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Super dark this early in the day, but, like, you know.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Makes makes you think, yeah, the big.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: They're very, very important. Yeah, they're very, very important.

 

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Naomi Meredith: So you mentioned if kids are scared like you're like, it's fine, you can get over it. And you've even seen this with kids. I remember. One of the stories you told on the stem career quest podcast is when you had, like older upper elementary, you had the tarantula. Oh, what was her name? Was it Beyonce?

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Fiance. Her name's.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Beyonce who jumped. But I won't.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Him, and.

 

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Naomi Meredith: I.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Was cooking months.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: So.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Oh, cookie monster! The blue one.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: The blue one.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Angela, and then she jumped and but the kids were really brave, and everything so.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Yeah.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Like. That's just one experience. But what are some ways that you all get kids excited about bugs in science like? What does it look like when you're with kids or when you're with it might be different when when you're with the school group and when you're presenting, what does that look like when you're in those spaces?

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: I think, 1st and foremost, when you're you know, when we come in and we have our arthropod zoo with us, they are all behind us in cages which is important. This is something that like to us. It's like fairly obvious that they're in cages. But

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: when you're confronted with something that might be scary. All sorts of scenarios play through your mind. And so we get lots of questions like, Are they just roaming around like, where are they? What's happening?

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Yeah.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: So one of the things that we love to do is we'd love to set up the space for success. We put them behind us, and we cover them with a tablecloth, because basically, we need to set up some ground rules and some safety and some listening

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: and we don't need distraction of things behind us. That's just sort of like a teaching classroom culture kind of thing. And the 1st thing that we do is we ask questions about how do you feel about bugs? And we do not censor. We do like. If you don't like them. I want to hear it. Use your words I want to use the I want to hear the words that you use. If it's creepy, if it's gross, if it's this, if it's that, say it give it to us. You're not going to hurt our feelings.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: and that's powerful because people want to be

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: heard and how they feel about things, because and.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Respected.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Exactly. Yeah, like, we're not. We're not here to turn people into entomologists. What we do is we use bugs to ignite

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: that passion for learning.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And and

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: a and like. I don't know if I don't know if you've experienced this in a classroom. I think we all have as teachers or educators

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: that sometimes

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: sometimes students or students or audience members can just be sort of like a little dull and zombified. And my goal is, I want everyone to know what it feels like to feel capable number One and number 2 awake, alive and alert. So if I can get students to feel awake, alive and alert about something, and if we got live bugs they're awake, alive and alert. They don't know what's gonna happen.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: So that's 1 thing, and then the next thing is proper boundaries, and making sure that they know that we are not here to scare them, we are not here to do jump scares. We're not this. We're not these people on the Internet who grab animals and force them to sting us. We're not into that at all. That's the opposite of how we do.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Hmm.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Teach about wonder. We teach about curiosity. We teach about observation. We're not going to force you to touch anything. We're not gonna force you to pet anything, hold anything. We are going to ask that you look. And we do a lot of

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: word switching for students.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: So

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: So if they say creepy, we go great

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: for the next hour. Can you try to shift the word creepy to interesting?

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Can you shift the word Ew. To cool? Just put a K and an L on the end of that fine. And because our words really do inform how we feel about things

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: and and those are some. Those are some of the techniques that we utilize right off the bat.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Yeah. And

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: you know, as we as we go through our program, you know, there can be like, you know, we'll bring out. We'll bring out like one of our Beatles.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: and people will be like, you know, because because they're they don't know quite what to expect. Once the beetle is then out right. And so, being able to talk about like, you know, this is why, you know, it's moving like this. This is why it looks like this. Here's why it has this behavior. Like one of our death feigning beetles. If you mess with it, it'll lay on its back with its legs up in the air. And it plays dead. And we're like, here's why it does that.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: And then, once it feels comfortable it'll roll back over, you know, and walk around, and

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: and if they don't know that, that's why they roll over, they they can be kind of like startled by that sudden swap to where they're then up and mobile on their hands, and and so just by it, like

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: we don't dumb down the science.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: and so explaining the behaviors explaining the morphology helps. Students know what to expect. And, like, Christy was saying, you know, we build, we build that kind of structure, and we add the science into that structure, and students, no matter how old they are, really thrive with that, because they kind of know what to expect. And you build trust as you move along. Yeah.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Building trust is huge, and also allowing yourself to be vulnerable as an educator is huge.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: I will share that. I used to be afraid of spiders

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: when I was young, I mean like like cry for my dad.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: tears hot tears in my ear, holes laying frozen, you know, and it and there, there's a camaraderie there, there's an under.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Understand.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: That it's not just like I woke up as a kid and was like yay bugs. I was pretty anti bugs, and

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: that by learning about them. I changed fear to fascination. That's something we've been saying for years and years and years. And so

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: we model that strategy of

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: it's okay to be afraid, and you can't be brave without being afraid. And

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: we're here with you the whole time. It's not like we're gonna

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: pop a cockroach in your hands and go get a latte, though that sounds wonderful.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: and also we keep it light like.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: One of my favorite things to do in a workshop, because we teach so many of these workshops is my goal is to make Jessica laugh in a workshop.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: If I if Jessica's laughing in a workshop, we're having a great time.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: because

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: it means that all of us together are in a really joyful experience.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: and.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Sorry you're like. Also, she's really funny. And so sometimes it's really hard.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Well, the kids are funny. I mean the you know this as an you know this as a teacher, like sometimes kids will say things that Jessica and I have to.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: We have to just.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: To stop. You have to.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And you can. I can feel myself like

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: camping it down like, especially if it's like slightly inappropriate. You gotta. And I'll like, take it, and I'll like I'll I'll hide it right back here, and the minute we get into the parking lot with the doors closed we're like, Oh, no!

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And it's joyful. And I think

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: you know what this reminds me of, too, Jess, is that

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: kids are people. Kids are human beings.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: This is my.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Sometimes

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: if you don't work with kids a lot, especially if you don't work with like large groups of kids, if you only maybe have your own kids, or or you're only used to. You know your nieces or nephews, or whatever.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: It can be.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: You can forget that they're human beings.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Hmm.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And you can tell when people don't

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: like you, and kids can tell when you don't want to be there or when you're not into it. And I think because Jessica, like kids, can tell

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: that we love teaching. Now.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And the way and what Jessica said about not dumbing it down. I'm really explicit with the way that I speak with with children, and by explicit, I mean, clear right? Yes.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: I mean.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: I'll say things like, can you tell that we like teaching you? Great? We're not gonna do anything that's gonna hurt you also, this is our job. Would we get hired again if word got out that we did, and like, you know.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: You say the word liability.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And I say, can you say the word liability?

 

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Naomi Meredith: Adults. They're adults.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Laugh. And it's like, and it's like really funny. And

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: but the but they can tell that we genuinely enjoy our work and our time with them, even if they're being chaos and rowdy.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: I love chaos and rare.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: and especially if the chaos and rowdy is about the thing you're bringing out. If you bring out an animal, and they're like Whoa!

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Have Jack.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And I were teaching Jess and I were teaching in Philly.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Was it Philly Jess, or was it New York City?

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: We were in the Bronx. I think.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: In the Bronx just over teaching in the Bronx. It's 1 of our favorite teaching experiences we've ever had hundreds of kids in a dark gymnasium.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: They'll.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Patrick.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Very sorry.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Very impacted in Pre covid times.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: week over time. Hundreds of kids in a squeak, you know, like sneakers on squeaky gymnasium floors like like a like a like a chaos.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: So dark.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: It was so dark I don't know what's happening. So we it was like winter. It was like dark.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And so we're showing slides, and we're showing pictures. And we're doing classification of arthropods. And we're talking about the difference between centipedes and millipedes. And we put up a picture of a centipede

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: and the whole place exploded. These kids have never seen this centipede.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Seen a desert, sunny.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: What like you could feel the floor vibrating.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: I mean.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: And and.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Like the projector screen was doing. Things were bouncing. It was this explosion. You know what

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: every single student in that room was reacting.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: To that they were in it. They were awake, alive and alert, and the teachers who were there were very upset about them being

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: disrespectful. Yeah. And to us

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: I'll I'll let people like I'll let the chaos to me. It's like the one of those toys. I don't know if you know those toys that extend. It's a big ball sphere, and it like extends out. And then it comes back together. It's like this like puzzle piece circle to me. That is the energy in a room, and I think it's because I have a degree in theater like my 1st degrees in theater. And so to me.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: My job is to be the conductor is to orchestrate the energy in a room, and and if I'm doing my job right, I let it go to a crescendo, and then I can bring it back. And then we focus. And Jessica and I are quite good at that, and I think

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: because we allow for

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: That can be sometimes uncomfortable for principals and teachers who are joining us in our work.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: If you just let us. I almost said, Let us cook like I'm a Gen. Z. I'm not. I don't know what's happening to me right now.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: This is how you know we teach so

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: like, if you just if if you just let us do that like.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: that's that's the good stuff I mean.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Maximum.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Stuff, you know.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Yeah. And that's some of the stuff that helps us build that rapport right? That allows us to make the connections with the students. Because we've taught students like, we taught some students 10 years ago that still email us.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Oh!

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: You know, and they still, like, you know, pop onto our Facebook page, or whatever, and make comments. And you know.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Hey? You came to my class, you know. Hey? Do you remember? We just went to a Girl Scout Camp in Portland. We used to live in in the West Coast.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Oh, it's just in Portland. It's beautiful!

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: It's lovely! It's lovely we were. We lived there for like 10 years and

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: and we would teach all these Girl Scout Camps or Girl Scout troops, and there was a girl at this Girl Scout Camp. We were doing a leadership summit for the older girls, 123 older girls outside midsummer 90 degrees

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Sure they.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: After.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Full day of camp. It was like it was intense.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: and this girl piped up and said, you taught me

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: when I was a Brownie. She was now like a junior in high school, and brownies are like.

 

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Naomi Meredith: The little ones.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And so

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: they they and I used to be so afraid of bugs. And today I helped the brownies hold the bugs. And so it's like, it's that kind of stuff that.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And teachers understand what we're talking about because you teach a student and they they come. You were my favorite teacher, you, you know.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Connection, and even though we drop in only for an hour, or maybe for a day, or maybe for a week, at a school.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: our job is to have that much of an impact in such a short time. That's our job. And it. And the impact needs to be positive.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Because a teacher can make or break.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: how?

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: How people move through the world.

 

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Naomi Meredith: And you're definitely role models than a couple of ways which like definitely to the kids like you're modeling like you're using insects as an avenue. But you're really modeling like how science

 

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Naomi Meredith: can be exciting. And this is what we do. This is a possibility. And especially being women in stem. That's such an exciting thing for kids to see. All kids to see that like, there's different possibilities. But also for the teachers. And this kind of goes into the next thing where you're saying, hey, we want you awake alive, alert, like. That's something

 

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Naomi Meredith: really great for teachers to see that science can be something else. I really connect with, like the way that you're teaching, because I would co-teach in classrooms a lot were science based.

 

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Naomi Meredith: And it I would call like controlled chaos, like, I know exactly what's going on. It's everything's fine like, and I'm not just saying that sarcastically. Everything's the kids are into it. But it was way louder than what the teachers would expect. And the classroom teacher thought.

 

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Naomi Meredith: This is wrong. This is not how science should be. I'm like, Oh, no, like we're we were doing rocks and minerals. I remember one, and they were going through all the tests like to see what their rocker mineral was, and so they had to make the observations and the color test the scratch test. And it was loud. The kids are excited. They're talking about. And the teacher didn't know

 

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Naomi Meredith: like how to handle that. And I think that's really great. What you're doing is that teachers can see this is another way science can be and I know, too, when we were talking before we hit record. What you have seen. With teacher trainings and what science like teacher training is, I know, for me. I didn't get a lot of training in my program with even with my

 

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Naomi Meredith: masters, but with how to teach science in an engaging way. Could you just talk? Could you guys talk more about that like what you've seen with teacher trainings like

 

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Naomi Meredith: just how science has been taught.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Yeah, for sure.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Jess. You want to take it.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Yeah, and and I think, too, that this that this goes beyond how teachers are trained. I think this is sort of

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: how a lot of the majority of people. See, science

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: is that it's just a bunch of facts.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: and you learn the facts and the facts don't change. And you just add more facts, and you add more facts. But

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: but science is not

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: sta like it's it's static. Wait, then it's dynamic. There we go, and it like, you know, it changes, and it and it and it evolves. And you know it's a it's a process. It's it's not just one thing that just

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: stays there. And so you know, I think that students and teachers alike are taught that

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: when you learn science you memorize the facts, and you do everything by like rote process like

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: step one step, 2, step 3, and then there's no

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: venturing out beyond those steps.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: When science is really curiosity, science is asking questions about things that you see and things that you wonder about, and you know, and it doesn't always go in a linear direction.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Yeah, I'm thinking about those labs. Jess, like.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: When you do a lab sometimes. Yeah, sometimes it's like, Well, did you do it right to get to this? To this foregone conclusion?

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Did you do the Ph. Read and do the, you know, and it's like, but that's not how science works like nothing in science. When you're when you're actually doing it goes like.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: but and tie it with.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And I think,

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: yeah, I think that there, I think

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: forcing people to start with observation is one of the hardest things that we do

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: and we actually have tools that help teachers with this, like, we made a little flow chart about how to classify arthropods, and we took all the leg numbers out of it.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: because people have all this stored knowledge, and if we went oh.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: go out and observe a observe a bug right.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: they'll go. Oh, it's a dragonfly! You go. Well, how do you know that it's a dragonfly, and you go? Well.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: someone told me once that that shape of thing is a dragonfly, and it's got 6 legs, and I know that 6 legs is an insect. Great! Is there any other way of knowing this like. Is there any other way of looking at this? And so we take away the leg counts, and we take away all preconceived notions, and you and it forces you to answer this sort of rubric of questions, and

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: and it is just sort of resetting our brains to sit quietly and look and wonder, and, as you observe, you have curiosity, and you go. I wonder why that is? And then that is inquiry, and from inquiry go well, how would I test.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: That is that testable. And you have to drill down to an actually testable question. And it's easier than you think. It doesn't all have to be fancy contraptions and a lot of tools and a lot of things.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: I think one of the things that

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: teachers can do to bring science process into the classroom is starting with observation.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And and just

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: run rampant with questions. You're not going to get to answer almost any of them. But wouldn't it be

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: beautiful to see what questions come out of these amazing minds that think that haven't been taught yet to think in a specific way, because that's the great thing about kids and questions is, their questions are like.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: what you know, yeah. And that's coming from observing things. They're natural scientists. They're naturally curious. And if we can.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: if we can glom on to that. And if we can capitalize on that, then we're doing science.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: And I I think, too, that the idea that science is devoid of emotion

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: yeah, like a hurdle to overcome, you know, because

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: people are not devoid of emotion, and people do the science, and so.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: People, created science.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Yeah. And so you know what we were talking about early about teachers, maybe feeling uncomfortable when students are getting like super excited and super loud and super into their projects like like, Keep keep that there. You want students to be really excited about the work that they're doing, because that is how they stay

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: in those programs. That is how they stay in that work is that they love it. They enjoy it. They're excited about it. And so, being able to allow for some of that emotion

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: and for it to be okay and acceptable. To have that emotion is super important.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Yes.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Also think the concept of

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: getting really comfortable as a teacher with saying, I don't know.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Hmm.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Is powerful.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Being able to say, I don't know.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Let's find out. I don't know. How would we find out about this? Turn it around, turn it into a challenge. And I understand also for any teachers out there who are like.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: I have curriculum to get through. I've got markers to hit. I've got start testing. I've got all the things like all the things that are happening for you absolutely.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: If you have these standards like, I'll just say Ngss standards for this right now, because they're they're pretty across the board, depending on where you are.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Those Ngss standards are.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Sometimes they can feel like they box you in.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Yeah.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: But honestly, if you kind of step back and definitely, if you use some of the cross cutting concepts, they really do open up lots of.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Awesome, great.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And creativity for you. Yeah. And I really think beyond the life cycles and ecology and animal stuff

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: bugs fit into so many of them physics.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Yep.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Weather patterns. True, I mean, yeah, one of our specialties is, how do we get bugs into every subject.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: There's a way.

 

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Naomi Meredith: There is.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: There's a way to do it, and

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: and I know that they're engaging for students. And so

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: if that's your hook like, if you're like. Oh, I think I could get into bugs and use them in my classroom.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: They can be a great hook for almost any subject.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: I.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: and that, and and just a callback to what we were talking about earlier, about feeling capable.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: You know, one of the things that that is a tenant in our, in our business and in our work is

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: 15 min ago. If you'd want to hold something.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And now you've watched other people hold things, and you've gotten to the point where you pet it. And then it almost always happens where a student will come up and go.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Okay, I think I'm ready. Can I hold it and go? Yeah, yeah. And you hold it. 15 min ago you didn't want to do this, and now you're doing it. This is what feeling capable feels like. This is what I mean about being explicit, especially about the social, emotional learning. What you are experiencing right now

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: is you feel capable. I want you to remember what this feels like, because I want you to feel that about reading. I want you to feel that about math.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Does math and science go hand in hand? I want you to feel it about public speaking, about meeting new people like all the things that people get kind of bound up about

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: being able to identify that that feeling of feeling capable is super important.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And when we can tie it to learning, and we can tie it to a classroom culture.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: it becomes a very powerful thing.

 

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Naomi Meredith: I love that. I know everybody is so like. Oh, I need you in my classroom. Please come. They're like.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: We do.

 

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Naomi Meredith: So for this, like, there's so many amazing takeaways. Like, I was writing down notes like, there are a million things. So I, just you guys go back and even listen to this again, because there's so many things that you can implement into your own space. And then you can also have the bug ticks

 

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Naomi Meredith: come to you. But like see them in action. But again, just having them as the role model and just seeing a different way to approach science. Maybe it's been a little bit stagnant for you. When I teach some I use science as my base. So when you said Ngss. I agree with how they O, open up projects. I made on my whole curriculum K through 5

 

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Naomi Meredith: using the Ngss because there are so many different possibilities. And just, they're actually a really good way to kind of guide

 

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Naomi Meredith: what you can do like as a base. But it does open up like ways to look at the world. I really don't think they box you into too too much. You just have to

 

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Naomi Meredith: approach it in a different avenue.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Puzzle piece. Take a little of this, take a little.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Yeah.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Yes, but if teachers like, I want more bug checks, I need them in my school. What kind of programs do you guys offer, and where can they find you.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Hmm, so they can find us at our website. The bugchicks.com.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Or on social media, you can.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: DM, us, on social media. We're at the bug chicks just about everywhere.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Put in a Google search, and you'll find us.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Yup and so for schools, one of the things we're doing a lot of is right now. We're based in Cincinnati, Ohio. So we're we're within driving distance of a lot of places.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: How central we are. Districts will ask us to come, and we'll come. Do full assembly programs for schools. And we have microscopes and live animals. And it's very interactive. And and it's incredible. And so much fun.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: K. Through 12 options for that.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Yeah, we have a couple of different programs. So we can do career connections for older students. We can do

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: we can. We can do like straight biology of bugs. And we can also do. We have a really beautiful one for K. 5, called Songs of Science.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: And it's about how insects communicate with each other, and we recreate a forest at night, using noisemakers with students, and of Katie dids calling to each other and chirps, and it's so awesome. But we also put the animals underneath the microscope, and you could see how they make the noise.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: It's so cool it's so cool.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: So we have those. And then we also come in for smaller programs where it's like, maybe just your classroom. And that's where we hold and pat and touch and do a lot more of the sort of interactive.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: The individual students. But we can also build a program that works for you. So we're going out to Seattle to teach a program we are going to long the Hamptons, like the east of Long Island to teach a full week.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Where else are we going? We might be going to Alaska to teach a full week.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Oh, wow! No!

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: It's in the air.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: so yes, we are available. And this is something that we do all the time. And it's a joy for us, and it's also our life and our living. And we love to do it. So yeah.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Well, my friend, just accepted a science position. I was just Googled. How far in Missouri from Ohio? Only 8 and a half hours. So I'm gonna tell her.

 

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Naomi Meredith: She works at a nature school now, which is so cool. So I'm gonna make.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: You're listening to this episode.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Yeah, we usually combine it with.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: you know, if you combine it with a couple of schools, or you combine it with the district, it makes it makes the whole thing more cost effective. And we can stay and teach. We love to teach at a whole district. And then that way. Everyone, you know, an older sibling and a younger sibling has an experience. It's a really, it's a really cool thing.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Yeah. And oftentimes we do community programs when we do those weeks.

 

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Jessica Honaker – The Bug Chicks: Because not everybody goes to the school. So you know, we'll do library programs or nature.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Oh, I love that you girls are killing it. I love this so much, and thank you so much for sharing your expertise and your perspective, and just you can tell and I can tell on the other show, too. But you can tell like how passionate you are. You say that. But but really the core of it, and what you're doing, it's not

 

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Naomi Meredith: how we teach about bugs like. There's so much more behind what you're doing which I think is really important for teachers to hear. Not every program is like that at all. And definitely what you're doing

 

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Naomi Meredith: totally aligns with how I think about science and stem. And I need to come see you when you're presenting, because this just sounds so amazing. So when you're near Colorado, let me know.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Yeah, I mean, we actually might have something in the works. We people in Colorado are always like.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Oh, good, yeah. Well, thank you so much for your time. And I know teachers are me so excited to check out your programs and even get more bug chicks in with their kids. So thank you so much again.

 

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Kristie Reddick – The Bug Chicks: Thank you for the update.

 

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Naomi Meredith: Thank you.

 

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More About your host, Naomi Meredith

Naomi Meredith is an online K-5 STEM Coach in Colorado supporting elementary teachers world-wide navigate the best practices, strategies and tools out there. With over a decade of experience teaching, 5 years teaching elementary STEM, along with a M.Ed. in STEM Leadership and STEM Certificate, Naomi helps teachers world-wide to navigate best practices, strategies and tools out there. 

She offers a variety of tools to help teachers feel successful teaching STEM to their elementary students through lesson plans, online courses, coaching and speaking events.

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Episode Summary

Wondering what it’s like having a guest speaker for school events who connects with your STEM content? In this episode, I was interviewed by Shauna Douglas from SAM Labs for their STEAM and Sip video segment.

During the interview, Shauna asked me how I scheduled an industry expert for my school and what the entire process entailed. I also discussed other creative ways to have industry experts speak in your classroom. Check out the checklist for connecting with industry experts I created in collaboration with SAM Labs. This is linked in the show notes.

 

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • My process for scheduling an industry expert to speak at my school
  • My experience with having an industry expert speak to my school for a virtual assembly
  • Examples of other creative ways to schedule industry experts to speak at your school

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Episode Transcript: 

Naomi Meredith  00:00

Wondering what it's actually like having a guest speaker that connects with your STEM content? In this episode, I had the pleasure of speaking with Shauna Douglas from SAM Labs, where she interviewed me for their STEAM and sip video segment. She asked me how I set up an industry expert for my whole school and that entire process. I also talk about other creative ways you can have industry experts come and speak in your classroom. There's also a checklist that is mentioned that I helped create with SAM Labs where it guides you through connecting with an industry expert. This will all be linked in the show notes for you to check out. Likewise, if you haven't already, make sure to go back and check out episode 59 where I share three classroom guest speaker ideas for STEM. Thank you again for being here and enjoy this episode. 


Shauna Douglas  01:20

Welcome Naomi Meredith to STEAM and sip. This is our I think officially second STEAM and sip. And we're so excited to be able to talk to you today about seem outside your classroom walls. And I'm gonna have you kind of talk about yourself and the things you do in your position. And I didn't write this question down. So I might throw you but oftentimes we say seem STEM, it's all the same. And so I always want to make sure that that's clear as we're using them kind of interchangeably today. So thank you so much for joining me. First, can you explain your role as a K five STEM teacher in Colorado?


Naomi Meredith  02:03

Well, thank you so much for having me. I feel like we're at a coffee shop right now and just having a good, good to chat. So hopefully, those of you who are watching have your coffee as well. But yeah, I am a former classroom teacher turn current K through five STEM teacher. And I wear a lot of hats in this role. So I will say my classroom experience definitely helped prepare me to be a teacher of 500 plus kids. So I do see all the students in my building. I will I see them five days a week, once a month. So I have the same students K through five, Monday through Friday, and then my rotation switches three more times. So it's a lot like Groundhog Day where my lessons repeat which I get really good at it by the third lesson. And then by the fourth time, I'm kind of tired of it, but no, it's all good. Um, so I do teach all the students in my building. But my role has been very different throughout the years and what my responsibilities have been, which has also been a really awesome experience. So when I first jumped into this role five years ago, the first part of my week, I was actually co-teaching and co-planning with all the other teachers in my building. So I had the opportunity to be in the classroom. So I was just out of being a classroom teacher. And then I was in this role and a brand new to the district brand new to me school brand new position. And it was a really great way to get to know the kids in their classroom setting and also get to know the teachers and what their needs were and what they were looking for when it came to STEM in innovation. So that was really fun. With some hiring changes, that's when it went to me being five days a weekend STEM. So the projects have definitely changed. Since I have more time I have double the amount of time I've known the kids for a lot longer. So that has been really awesome. But likewise, I am also the technology support person. So there's no tech person in my building, that is me. So I'm the one doing all the technology. With that I also run a tech committee and innovation committee for my teachers. So we meet once a month to talk about things that are happening in the district, happening in our building what they're looking for which that's actually an A go along with what we're talking about later in the topic. And then I if not busy enough, I do run some after school clubs for my students to help them explore their passions further. And then I also collaborate with other STEM teachers in my district and have I'm on committees with them to help them with professional development and event. So like I said, I have a lot of hats and roles in this position during the school day. So just really excited and passionate about this and how to help other teachers as well.


Shauna Douglas  04:49

I love it. You must have endless energy. I don't even know if I remember when I had that much energy but maybe I do. Well, the reason we kind of got in touch with each to other to start was recently you set up a school wide speaker, that was a community expert. So can you tell me a little bit more about that? Who was why you selected them what they spoke about? And just kind of how it worked in general?


Naomi Meredith  05:14

Yeah, this was a really cool opportunity. And I had posted about it, and then you were messaging me. So I'm like, Oh, I'm glad that this is a relevant topic. I think I put something out there, would you guys be interested in learning more. So I'm so glad we're talking about this, because I think it can be overwhelming for teachers to talk to a expert in the community. But literally, it's not as scary as you think. And actually, it was like a lot of fun. I actually got an email that was forwarded to me by someone in the district, not sure where I got it, and basically said, if you wanted to sign up and connect with somebody from the US space, force a mom, sure I'll put my name in, I don't know what to expect and what this means. So I put my email in, didn't really know. And then we eventually got connected with an expert, who works at the US Space Force, which is pretty cool. Since it is a newer branch out there. They're only a couple years old. And so I learned a lot as well. And it was really awesome to because yes, it was a random email. But I was also teaching about space in my classroom, K through five. So I didn't want to just have some random person come talk to my students, but it was connected to the content. So we were exploring space in different ways, with video and audio production. And so eventually, when I scheduled it, the timing of it was really, really awesome, because we just finished the unit, and then he was able to talk to the kids. So the timing was really great. So anyway, I connected with him. And this was his first time to actually do a presentation with elementary. So he hadn't actually spoken with high school before. So we were emailing back and forth. And then I offered to meet with him over zoom. And since he said it was his first time with elementary, so he was actually nervous, and I was a little nervous. So sometimes these experts aren't always around kids. So just keep that in mind. They want to get involved in sometimes they don't always know how to get involved. And so we actually collaborated together on what the topic would be and how it would be relevant for K through five. And then we talked about it and we met again, we went over his presentation. So he ended up talking about space rovers, and how they're sent off to space. What this US Space Force is, what his role and then also different jobs within NASA or the Space Force and how people collaborate together. So that was really cool to see. Like, there's engineers, there's geologists, there's scientist, he was explaining all of those roles. And that was really cool for kids to see, like not just hearing it from me, like, I mean, they love STEM, but just hearing it from somebody else who's in the field who's actually experiencing this every day. And so that was really exciting for them. So the way that I set this up with the kids, so him and I had come in collaborating for probably about a month and setting up a time we actually funny story, we had a time setup, and then I got an email that or something in the mail, but I had jury duty. So I actually had to change the day and I'm so grateful it worked out because it was the same day I would have jury duty. But that's aside now. Anyway, he's since he lived a few hours away, I actually set it up as a school wide virtual assembly. And thinking that too with post COVID. A lot of our students haven't been in a school wide assembly K through five since then. And so I was really worried about the behaviors of how they would act in a space where it's all 500 Plus kids together. And this Yeah, so it actually worked out really well. Kids are familiar with virtual. Most people are familiar with it. The teachers actually were fine with that. I know we'll talk more about their reactions, but we set it up a school like virtual assembly, my school has an assembly schedule. So that's something we already had set in place. So I was promoting this a lot set up a lot of reminders, talked about in the committee have pumped it up in class. Like I said, I run a lot of after school clubs. One of them is a our school wide news. So I do a video school wide news. So we would talk about it kind of like a commercial like this is coming. So there's a lot of like buy in with the kids and getting them pumped up about it. And so the actual session he did have presentation slides, video clips, I said the more pictures the better. The kids will love that. And he did he followed through on that he did awesome. So it was about 30 minutes with him and then at the end we set aside 10 minutes of q&a time so the younger classes needed to drop out. Just they are in their classrooms watching with our classroom teacher. They could but there's some really great questions from the kids he answered. Those and it was a great end of the day it was before winter break. So I highly recommend doing these before break. But it was really awesome is a really positive experience. So a lot of behind the scenes, I would say before the actual presentation, but I think that prep work is really worth the time.


Shauna Douglas  10:17

Excellent. Oh, I love that. And I think the prep and the promoting it within your own students that you see. And on the announcement, that is brilliant, because they're gonna get so much more out of it when they have that buy in. So it was very smart. Very, very smart. So next question, how did the students and the teachers respond to this speaker.


Naomi Meredith  10:42

So I will say, at my school, the teachers were skeptical at first, because we had a virtual assembly earlier in the year, but it wasn't really set up to be virtual, it was our spelling bee, and it was a little awkward. And there is just some negative connotations behind what a virtual assembly could be. So there was that skepticism. However, this was set up in a way I was very intentional, where we're creating this and he's at home, he has presentation slides like this is made to be virtual. And then the structure of having the teachers in the classroom. So just me even talking about in a positive way, the reason why behind it because as teachers, we want to know, what's the purpose of this? Why are we doing this? And also getting the buy in from my admin, they were totally OK with it. So really explaining the why is important, why are you having this person come in mind was to connect it with the content and having a person instead, the kids first, they didn't really understand what I was talking about, I had to explain to them the difference between the US Space Force and NASA to them, because they don't all know. And so they were getting excited. And like I said, it was just a lot of marketing. If you think you're a teacher, you don't do marketing. If you want to do something like an event, you really have to promote it in a lot of different ways. So I was creating images, like I said, the news, talking about it, and class talking about it word of mouth to teachers, the ones who I know who would be excited. So I really had to keep repeating myself for like a month just to get everyone excited. But they were really, teachers came up to me after the event. And they said, Thank you so much. That was really awesome. The kids loved it. They were taking pictures during the event and sending them to me. So overall, it was a really positive experience. And I think they're excited. They're hoping to do more of these with me later on in the spring.


Shauna Douglas  12:43

Fabulous. It's anytime we can make those STEAM careers STEM careers relatable, and be able to show them a real person that does that I think is so powerful. What do you feel are the benefits of showing students experts in STEM and STEAM in your elementary school?


Naomi Meredith  13:03

Well, exactly what you're saying, when I was getting my master's in STEM leadership, there was so many articles about this, that kids need to see people like them, to help them dream bigger. Now I'm a girl, a girl teacher in STEM, which is not always very common, even in elementary, which is awesome, I can be a role model for them. However, they also need other people who are real and doing these things. And so even if you don't have a STEM class or a STEM teacher, and I know a lot of schools don't have that it doesn't mean you can't have these opportunities. So these are ways to actually connect with the content that you're already doing, having multiple perspectives. And it's also bringing that content to life. And likewise, a lot of kids and even kids in my own building, they say they don't like science, because they all they do is read about science. So I know I was a former classroom teacher, it's hard to fit in for fit in science. It's one more thing, there's more materials, but keep doing it. I know it's more prep. But think about ways how you can bring it to life. So having these experts, it's different. Oh, cool. We're reading about it. That's great. Do that. But also add in is there somebody who can come and talk about this with kids, even if it's 10 minutes, it benefits something virtual, because this is going to help them really understand Oh, this is actually a real thing. Like maybe this is what I want to be when I grew up. I never knew the Space Force didn't exist five years ago. And now here it is. So whatever you're doing already think about ways that someone could come in and chat. Also, it might not even be somebody you connect with personally, I just recently did a webinar and had the chance to interviewing NASA scientists. I know it's all space. It doesn't have to always be space. But there are lots of people out there who are connecting experts and providing those resources. So even look, keeping an eye out for those and, and tuning into those opportunities can be really helpful as well. So that way, you don't even have to do all that back end work that I just talked about. Just even setting aside the time, a lot of these are even pre recorded anyway. So you might even watch the playback. So those are other ways to bring in experts as well. And maybe you can email the person afterwards. And they could answer your question. So let's say you watch the recording can email them. So people are more familiar with video calls, it can be someone locally, but also with virtual people are more used to it. So there's so many things out there. So it's just a really cool thing to bring into your classroom.


Shauna Douglas  15:44

It is definitely one benefit of having to go virtual is now so many people are just better at it, they're more comfortable with it, including inside my own school when I was in the school setting. We knew how to do all that because we can go and it does make something like this a lot easier. So I do appreciate that a lot. I want to make sure that I mention the elementary STEM coach podcast that you do, you're going to do an episode on this as well. So I will make sure wherever we put this video that we also tag that so that we can hear even more details about it. Another way to experience seeing because we said this is about outside your school, our field trips, and it might be virtual or in person. Is that something that you've done?


Naomi Meredith  16:33

Yeah, this actually has been something I've done, I did this actually a lot as a classroom teacher, because we didn't really have a STEM class. And we know that real field trips can get expensive with bus prices, there's a lot of management. I know with COVID at my school, we weren't allowed to go on field trips for at least a year or two. So there's just like some great options out there. Even because of COVID, a lot of virtual field trips were actually developed to actually have families experience. So those things are still out there. Off the top of my head. I know Google Earth has some so you can explore the like lots of different places, they have a lot of different virtual field trips. And then I know Nearpod has some as well, with some interactive lessons. So those are just a few off the top of my head. I have a blog post I've written about this. So I'll send this to you. And we can link on the page. I've just different things. I know a lot of museums do this one I really love doing with my younger students in STEM. It's the San Diego Zoo kids live animal cameras. And they have cameras and not all the animals. The zoo is wonderful. I love that Zoo. But they have cameras in some of the exhibits and the kids can actually see what the animals are doing right that second. And one time. During Sam, we were researching about animals in their habitats. And we noticed in I think it's like a vulture I think it's called a candy bar. I'm sorry if I'm wrong. But we saw in the video, there was an egg. And this mom kept going in checking in on the egg. And then when the kids came back four weeks later, I see them one week at a time the a cat hatched, and there was a baby the next time we checked.


Shauna Douglas  18:21

Fabulous, and I'm still talking about that. Yeah, I like that.


Naomi Meredith  18:27

Yeah, it's so it was so cool, because like we had seen this little egg and then we had this ugly little bird hanging out. And it's nests. So that was really cool. And really quick. So that's completely free. And actually it's not on YouTube. So it's not blocked by most filters. When it comes to people in person. Like I said, science can be overwhelming. But think about how you can bring people in. If you search for it. There's people out there who want to get connected. And so we had a geologists come in when I taught third grade, and they talked to them about rocks and minerals and how to identify all the different rocks and minerals. And then they actually all the kids got their own bucket of sand with different rocks and minerals. And they actually had to identify them using the test. And they had a little sheet that they would check off. And they actually figured out which of the rocks and minerals were and they got to keep them at the end. So that was so much fun. The kids loved it. The lady was awesome. She was so great. Like she even had fluoride, which glows under a blacklight. And the kids got to test if the mineral was quartz or fluoride. So that was really really cool. So and we didn't have to bring any of this stuff. So that was she did all that. I think a lot of states have this but we also had a local four h person who talked about chickens and their development because we were learning about life cycles. And they came in talked about that and brought us our chicken eggs. So we had the incubator. We have a little chicks in our class and then they came back halfway. through and talked more about their development, they did a candling session. So they have the egg and they hold the flashlight underneath. And we could check on the little embryos if they were still alive. And then they hatched in our classroom. And they came back and talk more about them as chicks and took the chickens back to their home. So super, super cool. And funding is an issue. I don't remember how much we paid for these. But this was a really neat, it was a field trip. It was just down the road, our local meetup Middle School, our feeder middle school, they actually did a Science Showcase at the end of the school year. So they had the middle school kids and their science class, create a science presentation. And then we were the audience. So we went traveled to different rooms in the middle school. And the middle school kids were teaching our third graders their science lessons. So there was slime, there was a hovercraft station. So really, it was STEAM and STEM just at the time, it wasn't called that. But there was even a room where the GT students created a whole classroom, that was a Rube Goldberg machine. And we got to watch it a few times. So it was so cool, because not only it benefited the middle school kids, because they were the experts about that station. And some of them were nervous, but my third graders aren't scary. Maybe some of them were but then I might middle school, or my third graders really excited to hear about big kids and what they were learning about. So I don't know if that's something you could do. If you are like, if you don't know how to get started, you can definitely collaborate with older classes, even in your building. That could be a great way to have a some sort of field trip, or even the middle school or high school. So those could be even types of experts as well in your area.


21:43

That is such a great idea. And I think about those students probably were like, they couldn't wait till they got to middle school. So then could do the same thing for younger students. I mean, we know teaching, teaching other students is so powerful. So I love that idea. These are all such amazing suggestions. And I so appreciate you taking the time to be on semen soap with us today. And I look forward to picking your brain. I feel like you're gonna be my person. This Yeah. Because you're always thinking and it's fabulous. So I'm excited about all the things you mentioned. And thank you so much for your time. 


Naomi Meredith  22:27

And thank you so much for having me. We'll chat soon.

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