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Real-World STEM Experiences for Kids with Georgia Littleton [ep.92]

Real-World STEM Experiences for Kids with Georgia Littleton [ep.92]

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Episode Summary

Creating real-world STEM experiences for kids can be challenging at times for STEM teachers. How can we bring real-world STEM experiences to our classrooms? In today’s episode, I chat with Georgia Littleton about how she has created real-world STEM experiences for her students. This was such an amazing conversation that we ended up chatting for over an hour. This episode is just a few clips from our conversation, but you can listen to the full episode on my YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@naomimeredith_

 

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • How Georgia creates real-world STEM experiences for her kids
  • Georgia’s experience with incorporating STEM world experiences into her classroom
  • Examples of the real-world STEM experiences Georgia has brought to her STEM classroom

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Meet Georgia Littleton:

Hi Everyone, I'm Georgia Littleton and currently the Gifted and Talented and STEM teacher/coordinator for K-6 at Booneville Elementary School. This is my 3rd year as the GT & STEM Teacher, and my 12th year teaching. My first year, I taught Kindergarten, then I moved to 3rd grade for 4 years. Next, I spent 1 year in 4th grade before I moved to 6th grade science for 3 years. I have a Masters in Gifted, Talented, and Creative and also a Masters in Curriculum & Instruction. So, yes, I considered myself a life-long learner. I am blessed to get to work with all student K-2, and then identified GT students in 3rd-6th grade. I considered my classroom organized chaos because we usually have so many projects going on. My goal is to encourage students to never give up. Failing is part of learning and I try to teach students how to overcome and persevere when they do not succeed the first time.

Connect with Georgia:

  • Email: georgia.littleton@boonevilleschools.com
  • Facebook

Episode Transcript: 

Naomi Meredith  00:00

In today's episode, I am interviewing an amazing educator who is so passionate about what she does Georgia Littleton. I first met Georgia when she attended my first ever virtual workshop, the K through two STEM planning workshop, which you can actually still jump in on, it was all recorded. So once you jump in, you get access to the whole thing, you can grab that at Naomi meredith.com/primary workshop, but I met Georgia, and she was just so much fun to have during the live workshop. And she asked great questions and also contributed some really awesome ideas. So after the workshop, we ended up chatting some more. And I could just tell that, again, super passionate about what she does. And I asked her if she would be on the podcast. And she said, Yes. So she was telling me about this whole real life experience that she brought to her kids, where she brought Antarctica to them to her small town where they don't even have snow. So you're gonna hear a clip of our hour and a half long interview, that was super inspiring, and just so much fun. It didn't even feel that long when I was talking to her. So this is part of the interview, where she's going to be talking about this whole Antarctica experience that she brought to her kids. So you'll see here that I'm asking her about something. But this is where you're really going to get some awesome impact. However, I didn't want you to miss out on this whole experience. So you can actually check out the full episode over on my YouTube channel. Just search up Naomi Meredith. And I have the full of bonus content, the full interview over on there that you can listen to the audio of because it was just so much fun. And again, she has some great stories and just so many things that I know that have inspired her, and also some other cool real life experiences that she has brought to her students. Georgia little tin is currently the gifted and talented and STEM teacher coordinator for K through six at Boonville Elementary School. This is her third year as the GT STEM teacher and her 12th year teaching. She has a wide variety of teaching many grade levels in the elementary space, including sixth grade science. She has two masters want to get in gifted, talented and creative, and also one in curriculum and instruction. Georgia considers herself a lifelong learner and feels blessed that she gets to work with all the students in K through two. And also all the identify GT students in third through sixth grade, Georgia considers her classroom organized chaos, because they usually have so many projects going on. Her goal is to encourage her students to never give up and understand that failing is part of learning. And she tries to teach them to overcome and persevere when they don't succeed the first time. So again, you're definitely going to hear the passion in her voice and just her love for education and for learning. And I hope that you enjoy this clip from our time together. But again, also check out the full length episode over on my Youtube. 


Georgia Littleton  03:53

I mean, all kinds of like, I bought her some leather off of Amazon because you know, how the leather earrings were style, you know, and she would have kids that would help her sometime design and some of the advertisement for and yeah, he was really, I mean, we discounted a lot of anything, anything that kids can do, you know, you


Naomi Meredith  04:15

do a lot of like, you do a really good job. Because like, this is what we're gonna get into anyway. But you did a really good job of bringing like real world experiences to your kids that are authentic. And I know that you're really passionate about it. You've told me that before but like your voice that you're passionate about it, like even yourself, like you're you as a learner, you like the world real world experiences, and then you know how impactful that is for you as a teacher, and then you're bringing that to your classroom, which I know you're telling me about this whole Antarctica thing with some extra. So tell us more about that because you're like, really, this is a really cool thing that you're doing with your kids.


Georgia Littleton  04:55

Okay, so we were at a chess tournament and it was like November, I think, and my GT teacher sent me this email and opened it up. And it was like a long term research, you know? And I was like, Why in the world is this? And she said, Well, she said, I know. She said, we're, you know, a lot a lot. We like doing unique things and you like, you know, do strange things. She said, so, I thought you might be the person that would do this now. So yeah, okay. She's like, just go look it up and just get some more information. It's like, okay, so I looked at it, and I was like, I get to work with a live researcher in Antarctica. Now, first of all, I'm from Arkansas. I forgot to say them from little mini school. We're three high school, and which are in the middle of nowhere. Some of our kids don't even get out of the state much less. We'll see the ocean.


Naomi Meredith  05:52

Yeah. Oh, oh, right.


Georgia Littleton  05:55

Right. Yes, we are landlocked? Well, I'm embarrassed to say, but my kids were in the sixth grade and eighth grade. They just went to the beach for the first time this past summer. And if we had had relatives that lived in Florida that we could stay with, I probably still would not have ever had the beach experience. Yeah. But anyway. So this was a research opportunity through Rutgers University. And it was, the scientists are stationed at Palmer Research Station in the western peninsula of Antarctica. First of all, I had no idea how many research stations are in Antarctica, but he's never looked at it, you need to look at a map. I wish I didn't have numbers in front of me. But it's like almost all the way around Antarctica. They're like different countries have research stations. I didn't know that either. Yeah, it's a pretty interesting map just to look at. So anyway, so I was like, hey, the worst they can do is not accept me, you know, no matter what. So I filled up application and I sent it to my GT specialist. I was like, Hey, can read this and tell me what you think. She was like, Okay. And of course, I asked you, you know, why you want to do this. And I'm like, our kids are landlocked. And some of them don't ever get to even see the ocean. And I try to bring in as many real world things as I can. Because how many times is educators? Do we hear? Why do we have to learn that? Yes. I mean, I don't think there's a teacher. A lot of that is not heard that question. But if I and that's why I'm so big on real world. If I can relate what I'm teaching to something in the world world, that explains that question. I don't have to hear that.


Naomi Meredith  07:41

Mm hmm.


Georgia Littleton  07:42

I don't hear him very often in this position.


Naomi Meredith  07:45

That's really good, though. Because you're doing a good job. It is.


Georgia Littleton  07:49

Now we're all my kids interested in this? No, but I might even do it because they might not ever get to experience Antarctica again. So what it was, is these researchers, of course, they rotate through Palmer station, and they spend different amounts of time down there, but they go down there, the program that we got accepted into, was it Antarctica. So what it was, is they were working on the whole thing centers around climate change. But what we don't realize is what all climate change effects, you know, and especially the kids don't realize it, okay. So for example, the basic or start of the food chain in Antarctica is cruel. And of course, my kids are like, what's krill? Yeah. Like, what shrimp are, we know, what's your boss? Well, it's kind of like sharanam just just think of it as shrimp. And I said, but that's the basic food chain. So if the global warming warms up the water which is doing in Antarctica, then the krill it affects them, because they like a certain temperature. So if the level of or the depth of the ocean that they like for lightness, darkness, and all that technical stuff, but if it's not the temperature they want, then they're probably going to decrease in population. So that means the seals that depend on them. And then they pick ones that depend on them. And then the whales, everything's gonna have trouble. Yeah. Like another example of climate change is that the Adel penguins are the most Well known penguins in Antarctica that is so hard to say. Okay, so the Adel penguins are cold weather penguins. They love ice. So with the climate change has been going on the the past years, is that The OS is not getting as thick, and there's not as much. There are research scientists that have been going down to conversation since it first opened up, I think it's been roughly about 30 years. And they're like, we can tell you where the OS was, and how much is melted back onto land now wow. And like their big icebergs how much smaller they are. So I thought like, it was all frozen down there, like the ocean and everything was like frozen year round. Well, it's not. So I've learned a lot. But they have what they call new assets. It's what's frozen in the past year. So it's, it's like your, you know, your fresh, new Frozen, you know, water baths in the ocean. So the big vessels they use, they're an icebreaker. So it does not have to slow down to bust through that one year old OS. Whoa, yeah, if it's less than a year old, it can just go right through it at the steady speed as to slow down when it starts getting in thicker us. Mm hmm. So they take this big ass breaker, and they have this huge net on the back that they can draw. They can set it to wear at different depths, they can open up different nets. And so they can catch whatever is in the water at at different depths. And so then they bring those and they take all that to the research station. And so it's it's just, it's amazing what they you know what they do, but it all bases around climate change and how it's affecting everything. So because the Adel penguins, because they are cold weather penguins. They are actually dying out. Yeah. And they're predicting, like, within so many years, there's not gonna be any more adult England's Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah, that's how serious it's hard for us around here. I know, to really think that climate change is real, because it's hard for us to see any effects. But when you Google a map, and I did this, a Palmer station when we started working with them, of an aerial view, you know, 30 years ago of where the OS was, you know, the glide shears to what it looks like, now, I was like, Oh, my goodness, you know, it's a big deal. And so there's other types of penguins that that are coming in now, that are warmer weather penguins that don't have to have the OS. Yeah, just like the humpback whales. They are migrating down to Antarctica. Now, they used to never migrate down to Antarctica because it was too cold. So actually, that was one of the other programs that I could have got chosen for was to track Well, migrations. Hmm, that's cool. Yeah. And the research scientists will tell you, you know, we used to never see the humpback whales, because it was too cold for Yeah. And everything is changing. You know, there's, you know, there's, you know, birds that come down that never used to and it's just, it's a big difference. Okay, I was shocked when I saw a video of these guys working in Antarctica. Yeah. And they had on T shirts and no jacket. I'm like, it's supposed to be cold down there. They said, Yeah, this is their summer time. So they're the exact opposite of us. Okay, to where the Arctic, which is the North? Yeah, they are on the same season as the US is just the opposite.


Naomi Meredith  13:30

Okay. 


Georgia Littleton  13:32

So yeah, crater. Yeah. And that was one of the questions on our pretest that we had to take with him. And I'm retaining it. Yeah. But he was just amazing. But like, the teachers that got accepted. And the reason it was so amazing, is they only accepted three public school teachers for each of the three programs. So there was none of us. Now, because they are from records, which is based in New Jersey, they do a lot of work in New Jersey, which is such a small state. Yeah, sure. Doesn't take you 30 minutes drive all the way across it. But they work with a lot of four H clubs up there. And they do this program with them. So there was probably that many four H clubs that were also in with us. So what we were going to get to do is they were going to after they had been there while they went down right before Christmas, they actually got to celebrate Christmas down there in Antarctica this year and the new year so that was kind of neat. But they had thought that they would start getting lessons to us the middle of January and they asked us to do five lessons. And what it was it was going to be using a dichotomous key using for identification of the animals. So what they were going to do, they had some like last year's that we could go practice on and they have a picture what we were seeing it was a bird and then it had a curl in its mouth. And they asked us to you is basically the bird, dichotomous key to identify the bird. And then the zooplankton one to identify the zooplankton. And it's male. Yeah, so that will stuff and it's pictures that they have taken this year. Oh, wow. Yes. That was what was so neat is that? Yeah, it was like,


Naomi Meredith  15:26

How often do you talk to them? Like, how often do you guys meet? Is that live? Or is it pre recorded?


Georgia Littleton  15:33

That's it. Okay, that that that's the big deal. The big hoopla on this was that we were supposed to get to have a 30 minute Zoom meeting with our scientists. Yeah. And our kids could sand and 20 questions. So the three schools that were gonna partner and be there that same day, we all got to sit in 20 questions, and they were going to pick you know, 10 to 15 questions per school, then they were asked in that list back to us, so we would know. Yeah, he was really excited about this is so cool, you know. But anyway, it turns out that my live Zoom meeting was the same day, same time that I was receiving my award from the state oh, oh. Well, I didn't want my kids to miss out. So I asked one of our interventionist if she, which her son is in fifth grade, so he got to go through the program. So she was really excited because she saw practices all the time talking about Korea when it ran out, he's talking about so I asked her I said, if I have everything set up, and I will forward you all the emails, I said, Would you please go down there to my room? Or I said, Are we you can do it in your room, I sit and do the same, I say it's just gonna be a 30 minute zoom. So but that way, my kids still get to participate. So because what I had originally planned is I was gonna go down to our gifted and talented conference on Wednesday. Do that come home Wednesday, not come to school Thursday morning, do Masoom and then drop back to Little Rock and finish out our conference for Thursday afternoon Friday? No problem, no big deal. Then I get an email from the State Department that I wasn't at 56 award winner. Oh, so I was like,


Naomi Meredith  17:23

Oh, no.


Georgia Littleton  17:28

At the mic, okay. There is no way I am not going to accept my ward. You know, because this, this was a big deal for me. 56 award, I even I'll show you know, everybody on the podcast can't see. But


Naomi Meredith  17:45

I know a Willie, I want to edit the video. Eventually, they'll be able to say, Oh,


Georgia Littleton  17:49

Well, here. I will hold it still then maybe. 


Naomi Meredith  17:52

That's so awesome.


Georgia Littleton  17:54

anyway. So I 56 award is for the outstanding gifted program. Yay. Yeah. So what it is, is our Gifted and Talented program, you have the State Department has these minimum requirements that you have to do. Yeah, and there's like 10 categories, community involvement, curriculum PD, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, the activity six is what you do above and beyond the minimum requirement. And this is just my third year being the GT teacher.


Naomi Meredith  18:26

Ah, oh, yeah. Well, I'm not surprised. Like, you're like, look at all this stuff you're doing you're like, snapshot.


Georgia Littleton  18:36

But my GT specialist really encouraged me a lot. Actually, she encouraged everybody to not just me, but ever, but because this was she had somebody from her Co Op had won it for three years in a row. And she's one like, keep the momentum going. And so it was an intense application fill out. Because our gifted and talented Advocacy Council is the ones that read the application and select it and the names are eliminated. So they have no idea. But they have these questions, but you have to tell what the minimum requirement is. But then you have to tell what you're doing above and beyond. But the problem is, there's a character limit.


Naomi Meredith  19:21

And all this stuff.


Georgia Littleton  19:24

Make it short and sweet. So like what a narrative they tell you don't bulletin. I mean, they want you to talk, you know, and that's hard. It's hard for me as much stuff as I do. I hate bragging about myself. Oh, yeah, it was what I dreaded about this podcast and most is I don't know how to brag on myself. Oh,


Naomi Meredith  19:43

I did a great job explaining like I could tell you do a lot you just saw on this podcast, like look what I do, guys. There you go. If you need other evidence.


Georgia Littleton  19:57

I'll do that. Yeah, good idea. You're awesome. Okay, so anyway, so I filled this out. And it was, I mean, several pages long. So anyway, they said, you've won. And the amazing thing is, is it comes with a $3,000 cash award. Oh my god. So it went to my school district. So my district coordinator, she takes me and she's like, did you know you got this award? And it comes with a $3,000 monetary award? And I'm like, Yes, I did. And accepted it at our GT conference. She goes, Wow. And I'm like, No, I do get the money. Right. It doesn't go into general fund. Yeah, she goes, she goes, Well, I've got to contact the State Department. She said, whatever they said. And of course, they said it was designated for GT. So that's why I was so thankful for you, when we did the three, five works STEM workshop, and I was asking about the green screen and the stop motion and all that, because it's always nice when you know that somebody has first hand knowledge of the materials, and whether it works or not. And so that's why I asked for your list. Because, yes, this is a lot of money, but I don't want to just blow it total, and then go, why did I spend it on that? Yes. And even though it's for the GT program, I would like for as many kids at our school to benefit from it as possible. And one of the things and I think I've told you about this at our three five workshop, is that when I first took over this, my principal had even mentioned about us taking over morning announcements, as our principal does it every morning, you know, good morning. And I was kind of like, yeah, you know, I don't know anything about that. Yeah. So when you were talking about the green screen, and the stop motion, and your video production, I was like, Oh, my gosh, this would fit right in?


Naomi Meredith  22:01

I mean, you could totally do it. I


Georgia Littleton  22:02

believe it. Yeah. So my GT No, not me, the GT students see teach the kids to debt? Oh, totally. Yes. So they could get to where they could eventually do it. But then the whole school would actually benefit, you know, and then we might even be able to use that as a reward for like, the top IR reader or something kid come in and do the morning announcements with us, you know, and my kids could teach them how to do you know, just all the times looking for awards, you know, that are incentives that are internal that we, we don't have to buy? Yeah, so I'm thinking, Okay, that would be a really good one. Yes, we are celebrating Dr. Seuss week, this week instead of last week. So and I was thinking, you know, we can have kids come on and read a Dr. Seuss book, or, you know, anyone,


Naomi Meredith  22:54

just so many opportunities and like, real world, like we're talking about, like, my kids love it. I've done it. There's my second year. And the kids are funny, because they're funny with me, because they like, No, I have a YouTube channel. So they like, they listen to me, because like, Oh, she knows you're not that close. But okay, thank you. But anyway, I've been doing it and they love it. It's just super like, they are passionate about this stuff, because they love this is totally them like presenting on camera. And like peer to peer. So like, once you start doing it, you really see like, a whole like you said, you want all the kids involved like the little kids look up to the big kids who are on camera. T shirts are like, Oh my gosh, I can't wait to I'm on the news. Like the little kids are so excited. And then you can like you said have like them reading books and having them be more involved. Like we do like a joke of the day. So any kid can submit a joke. So it's just a really cool, like in house experience that can grow with time. But I know you like I think you'd be great at facilitating that. Because you're like, all about the real world stuff is totally up your alley.


Georgia Littleton  24:08

It's so funny, because we have so many kids that are bashful that don't want to get up in front of kids and speak but I think something like this, they would be just fine with it. Well, you know, nobody would get to see him. And you could cover up their little screen here on their computer and they'd never see themselves.


Naomi Meredith  24:25

Yeah, or they could edit that could be on the editing team. Switch. Like I had some kids who are on editing, you're like, I think I really want to be on camera. But I also had some kids like, I don't actually like be on camera, I really want to be on editing. So I've had some lab which is really good because they're both important. We actually editing team helps us a little more than if there's a teacher who's like scared to get started or like whether it's like getting experiences for their students or like doing something for themselves as professional development. Do you have any tips for them? Like what would you recommend? Like because you go I'm writing down all these lessons, but if someone who's like not at the same level as you are, like, could they start?


Georgia Littleton  25:07

Okay, definitely. The first thing is you have to be comfortable stepping, not comfortable, but you have to be willing, willing to better word, you have to be willing to step out of your comfort zone. And like, I guess for me growing up on the farm, I got dirty or walked in cow manure, you know, walked in mud, you know, anyway, so that's why it doesn't bother me getting dirty. But like, one place that you can start is like, we have a science museum and Little Rock. It's called Museum of Discovery. And they offer professional development workshops in the summer. And oh, my gosh, they are wonderful. And they are STEM based. Most teachers don't know about them. I have gotten to know the ladies down there. And it is just, it's amazing. But okay. They came up to our co op this year. Yes, I know, I'm getting off topic. But one of the activities she did with us for STEM, it was called needle felting. Ooh, cool. Now, I am not a knitter. I'm not a crochet er, I can't do cross art. I can't do anything like that. All this was is you get like a foam cushion. Yeah, like a square of like an eight by eight. And you get your piece of material you put on top of there. And there are like these needles that are like really skinny. I get them if you want me to. And you put this wool colored wool just on there. Like you're gonna take like a permanent marker before and try shadows on. Like, she told us to do something. Of course, I'm not the artsy crafty person, remember? So I drew a bubble ale. Oh, I was like go GA Yeah, drew in Iowa in a bubble letter. Yeah. But all you do is you take your needle and you just poke cool. And that's all you do. My kids went crazy about it. Like this is all you do is just didn't poke. Again, it's something that for some people, it's very relaxing. And some people thought it was so slow, it was boring. But like I bought a book that she recommended about how to make your straight lines how to make 3d. There are people out there that make like stuffed animals out of cool, and they look real weird. I mean, yes, it's just crazy. But that's what I would suggest is just start with a hands on workshop. Because, and no offense to people that have the workshops where they read the PowerPoints, but if you don't get in there yourself, and that's what I have found out, if you don't get in there yourself and do it yourself, it's hard to bring it back. But if you're at a workshop, like I can pull over in my teacher book right here and whip out our book that we made this summer, yeah. And, but if you do it yourself and you have something to take back, whether it's a water tower, or whatever. Another thing is your nature centers, they will offer some PD, whether they do it or somebody offers it up there. Any of your just any places like that, just contact them, you know, or, and a lot of them, they will come to your school. And you don't even have to do it yourself. If you're not comfortable with doing it yourself. Call your nature center and ask them to come and present something to your students. Like for example, your State Game and Fish Commission. Good ABA, I found out that ours even though the fish hatchery is on the other side of the state, when I was in sixth grade sites, I contacted them and we did a fish dissection for now I thought at first this was gonna be like you know the paper one and you know, ah, we would just you know, like the fold and and stuff. You know, it just be papers. Nope. They came wheeling in with an ice chest. Oh, cool. And the fish hatchery had cut the fish form the day before and put them on in an ASHA stone us. Whoa, look at that. They were like six to eight inches long. Oh, wow. Yes. We opened them up. And every two to three kids got a fish. And which they had all the utensils. Yes, they were using scalpels and stuff. And we had to have a lesson on that. And you know, it's pretty tense. But the kids loved it. You know who I'm sure I had a couple that turned gurney and had to leave the room. But, I mean, we got to do their insides and they went through what every organ was. They gotta say if it was a female, she had eggs. Then we got to take their eyeballs out and look at their eyeballs. And then we cracked their skulls open And I don't know if you fish very much, but probably about the size of your thumbnail. Yeah, is about how big a fish's brain is when there is 180, bitty tiny. I mean, that's the smartest whale? Oh, I'll put it like this. A lot of the kids when they were trying to dig into their skull and crack it open, they smashed the brains. Oh, no, but they're meant to do a little tiny thing. But I mean, just, even people like that, invite people into your classroom. And they will do it for you. And it will be free. For three years, I had them come up, you know, different people did it each year. But for three years, they came up and provided dead but real fish for my kids to dissect. Yeah, and it didn't cost me a thing. And these people, it was probably a, I'm gonna say a four hour drive for them. And they didn't mind a bit. And they, and they stayed all day, because then I had five classes. And we started out first thing in the morning. And they thought, Well, you know, they'll do one or two classes. And then that's it, you know, and I'll have to record it. No, they stayed the whole day. Just excited. All they asked was for a large trashcan, for it to be triple bagged, to provide paper towels


Naomi Meredith  31:21

perfect.


Georgia Littleton  31:23

And yeah, just but just anything that they can do to like I say it's too much for them to get the hands on, then invite people in that will do the hands on with the kids. And I guarantee you that the kids will love the class, love the experience. And it will be huge. Oh, just because the more you can get them up and doing stuff, the better. They like it because you know that no matter how much they love technology, they get tired of sitting still. Yeah, whether they have a screen in front of them or not. And they want to be moving around


Naomi Meredith  31:59

100% Yeah,


Georgia Littleton  32:01

stay with me and I will be accountable for all of them. But so yes, so that junior beta club sponsor is going to go ask the school? If so, yes, if we can go so that might be an adventure. So June, I'm gonna need some prayers for Jane because the first week in June is when I'm going to Gatlinburg for a week for the STEAM in the park. Yeah. And then towards the end of the month, if this works out, Oh, I'll be taking 12 junior high kids to Louisville, Kentucky.


Naomi Meredith  32:34

This summer.


Georgia Littleton  32:36

I'm gonna get my miles in.


Naomi Meredith  32:37

Be so busy.


Georgia Littleton  32:40

But I just thought, you know, these kids need to be able to experience that. That's what we want. We want them to see that reward. We want them you know, to be able to say, Hey, I got to go to Nationals. My seventh grade year in beta. Yeah. Yeah. And not everybody can do that.


Naomi Meredith  32:55

Oh, I'm you're the great breath. Best person? Oh. Well, I appreciate your time, so much. And I know teachers are gonna love hearing all your experiences, like I can see the passion, but you can hear it in your voice. And I wrote down everything that you said. So I will link. I always take notes and interviews. Because I know people will want all the all the links. Do you have a lot of all the cool things? Is there a way that teachers can connect with you if they have any questions and you want to chat?


Georgia Littleton  33:31

Yes. I don't know if people usually do email address. Yeah. But you are welcome to put my email address. It's just Georgia Dot Littleton at bumo schools.com. And then I'm on Facebook. It's Georgia Goldsmith Littleton. Not probably very many Georgia Littleton. But you'd be surprised how many people have the same name. Yeah. And then I have just recently and so like very recently, so there's like, probably nothing on there. But I'm trying. So I did set up a Twitter account. Perfect. And it Yeah, GeorgiaGTSTEM. So I still have to get somebody to explain Twitter to me and how it worked


Naomi Meredith  34:14

Me too.


Georgia Littleton  34:18

that I don't do Instagram. I just I can't get into that one. But sabia baby steps see I created the Twitter account. So but yes, but they can find me that they can email if anybody has any questions, they can email me and I will be happy to share anything. I'll visit with them. I'll call them I'll zoom them. But anything I can do to help people I just want to encourage everybody that defines your passion and teaching. And you know, we can do such a better job teaching if we have a passion. And sometimes it's hard. I was just asked that question what is your passion? And that was like, Oh, I don't know what my vision is. I


Naomi Meredith  35:02

just want to help kids. Real World Learning. I mean, I'm answering the question for you, you're really gonna like making connections to why learning is fine. And hands on, and it can apply to everybody. So I answered it for you.


Georgia Littleton  35:16

Yeah, Well, that's kind of what I ended up. Yes, but yeah, I have lots of resources. And I love doing if anybody has any crazy out of the box stuff that I can do like the Antarctica deal or the artifact exchange, just shoot them to me and I would love to do stuff. So


Naomi Meredith  35:35

Well, I appreciate I'm sure they will. I'm sure you got people reach out. And then by give me like an expert at Twitter after this, you'll have all the people chatting with you. But thank you so much for your time. And I love all your stories. And I know all the teachers are gonna love hearing them, too. So I appreciate you so much for doing this. Thank you so much again.


Georgia Littleton  35:56

Well, thank you for hosting the K-2 and the 3-5 STEM workshops so we could meet appreciate it very much.


Naomi Meredith  36:02

Of course, there's so much fun. I'm glad you got to come live. It was so much fun.


Georgia Littleton  36:07

It was I enjoyed it. So you never know what experience you're gonna get something out


Naomi Meredith  36:12

  1. Oh, absolutely. You're so right. You just have to try. Yes,


Georgia Littleton  36:17

that's right. Thank you so much. I know I talked a lot longer than what you


Naomi Meredith  36:23

You're awesome. All right.


Georgia Littleton  36:25

I appreciate it so much. Yeah.


Naomi Meredith  36:27

Thank you.

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Space, NASA & STEM in the Real World with Aaron Shepard [ep.50]

Space, NASA & STEM in the Real World with Aaron Shepard [ep.50]

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I can’t believe we have made it to the 50th episode! We have a special guest on today’s episode to celebrate this special occasion.

Today I am chatting with Aaron Shepard, a software engineer at NASA Goddard. We had an awesome discussion about his journey and career, his passion for STEM, STEM in the real world, and how to get kids involved in STEM.

 

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • About Aaron Shepard’s role at NASA
  • How he went from pursuing a career in medicine to becoming a software engineer for NASA
  • His passion for STEM and how he gets kids interested in STEM

Meet Aaron Shepard:

Aaron Shepard first fell in love with science while watching astronauts blast off in the Space Shuttle. He dreamed of one day building cool technology while floating in a lab in space. Aaron was devastated to hear NASA announce the end of the Shuttle program during his freshman year of high school. Fearing that the space age was coming to an end, he decided to “grow up” and pursue a more realistic career.

After briefly attending medical school, Aaron decided to chase his childhood dream of working in the space industry. He graduated from Clemson University in 2022 and has since joined the Flight Dynamics team at NASA Goddard as a contractor (a.i. Solutions). Aaron currently develops orbital tracking procedures for the Roman Space Telescope, which is scheduled to launch in 2026.

Since changing career paths, Aaron has become an active contributor in the aerospace and science outreach communities. As a lifelong advocate for diversity and inclusion in STEM fields, Aaron has worked with thousands of students through outreach initiatives and public speaking.

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Naomi Meredith  00:00

I can't believe that we have made it to the 50th episode of the elementary STEM coach podcast. When I first launched this podcast in July of 2022, I had no idea how this would make such a big impact in the elementary STEM community. Not only am I able to help teachers like you with your elementary STEM journey, but I've also been able to make some awesome connections with a lot of you and other people who are supportive of STEM education. Thank you so much for being here in this journey. And I look forward to even more episodes of this podcast, and how it grows from here. In turn, I have a special guest to celebrate this 50th episode. We have today, Aaron shepherd who is a software engineer at NASA Goddard. And we had an awesome discussion about his journey and to his career, his passion for STEM and also how to get kids involved. Aaron at first fell in love with science while watching astronauts blast off in the space shuttle, he dreamed of one day building cool technology while floating in a lab in space. later down the road after briefly attending medical school, Aaron decided to chase his childhood dream of working in the space industry. He graduated from Clemson University in 2022, and has since joined the flight dynamics team at NASA Goddard. Aaron currently develops orbital tracking procedures for the Roman Space Telescope, which is scheduled to launch in 2026. This is such a fun episode, and I know that you're going to enjoy it. We had a great time chatting. And again, thank you so much for being here. 


Naomi Meredith  02:16

All right, Aaron, well, thank you so much for being here today. I'm so excited to chat with you. I have met your wife through some fun business connections and that she was telling me what you do with kids. And I was like, “Okay, I have to have your husband, Aaron here on this podcast.” I didn't have you tell me too much before we started recording, because I want to hear it as it comes. I'm so excited to chat with you today. I know the other teachers and the STEM community are going to learn a lot from you. So if you wouldn't mind introducing yourself, your journey to NASA and then what inspired you with the role that you have?


Aaron Shepard  02:56

Okay, yes, thank you so much for having me on. My name is Aaron and I am currently working as a software engineer at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center. In particular, I am on the flight dynamics team for the Roman Space Telescope, which is supposed to be the successor to the Hubble and will hopefully launch, fingers crossed, in 2026. My job is to make sure that it doesn't get lost in space on the way out. Yeah, if it gets lost, it's like junk. Yeah, it's kind of kind of my fault if it gets lost. Well, yeah, my journey to NASA has been quite an interesting one. I grew up like every other kid. I was like, “Oh, I want to go to space. I want to be an astronaut. I want to make all the cool stuff that we send out to Mars and Pluto or wherever.” I guess where my story gets interesting is that I grew up in the early 2000s. That was right around the time when they cancelled the shuttle program. So when they cancelled the shuttle program, I kind of bought into all the hype. Everybody in the room was like, Oh, they're canceling the shuttle program. There's not going to be a NASA like space is not the industry. It's not going to exist in 5 to 10 years. I remember when that announcement came out in school, because like I was just like staring at the tile like, “Oh my god, what am I going to do with my life?” 


Naomi Meredith  04:21

Oh, no.


Aaron Shepard  04:24

So I kind of lived a whole another life before like space and NASA. I have a lot of doctors in my family. So I was like, “Okay, I'm gonna go do that.” So I graduated, went to college, did my MCAT, got into med school, and then I remember like, literally being in med school, like in a class, and I was like, not paying attention at all. I was watching one of the announcements. The European Space Agency had just landed on a comet. They were sending back like pictures and videos. I was like, I want to do that with my life. So needless to say, that was a sort of a very long, very introspective journey dropped out of med school. That was fun to explain to my parents. My mom was like, “What!?” Don't worry about I got it. I'm gonna take care of it. It's all good. I dropped out of med school, went back, did another degree in engineering. I was in school for six years. Then while I was in school, I just, I got really lucky. I had people to help me. I had people that believed in me. So I started. I worked at NASA for three summers while I was a student. Then after I graduated, about six months after I graduated, no, not even six months after I graduated. I graduated in May, and then I got my job in like mid-June. So that's great. Yeah. I didn't, I did not think that it was going to work out the way it did. But that's the journey. I guess that it was one of those things that was meant to be, so now I'm living the dream and doing what five year old me wanted to do.


Naomi Meredith  05:58

I was just going to say like little Aaron would be so proud of you.


Aaron Shepard  06:04

Yeah, little Aaron. Little Aaron is looking at big Aaron, like, all right, you're, you're pretty cool. Yeah, it's, honestly, to be a part of the space program, and to hopefully, be a part of something that goes up is one of, I think, the greatest honors in my professional life because not too many people can say that they've done that. So I'm really just, it's, it's not anything that I take for granted. Let's put it like that.


Naomi Meredith  06:33

Oh, yeah, it's so amazing like that. It's just a lot of work and it's a lot of collaboration. All your hard work has definitely paid off. It's just a slow go to. It's not that instant gratification to I mean, you said 2026. So all of this work, and you're just hoping that it will work. Like that's the ultimate STEM project right there. So I'm hoping and 2026 I'll keep my eyes out for your guys's project. I love space. I never wanted to be an astronaut but I'm very interested in space. I actually just finished a space unit with my K through five kids. So we talked about Earth and space and lots of different ways. Fourth grade, we're talking about space junk, we were talking about light pollution in fifth grade. But I'm just so fascinated by it. We have a solar system hanging up and the kids are super into it. It's just so cool. Like, who knows, maybe one of them or a few of them are little Aaron's and they tell me they want to work for NASA or be an astronaut. I'm like, Hey, you can do anything. We need you. We need you. So I just I'm so excited to get into just more of what you do. So when it comes to NASA, what does a typical day look like for you?


Aaron Shepard  07:47

So what's interesting is that I'm actually working remote. So the typical day looks like I wake up. Usually I try to be up around eight o'clock, and I try to clock in around 830 or nine. NASA is a very team oriented organization. So I'm in a lot of meetings. I would say, I have a meeting or two just about every day, Monday through Thursday. Then it just depends on what phase of the project we're in. So I work again with software. So I could be writing new procedures, I could be debugging and troubleshooting old procedures, or, right now, we're in a documentation phase. So I'm writing a document, I'm writing the documentation for all of the programs to explain, oh, this is how you run them. So that way anybody can look at them and be like, Oh, I just need to press this button and that button. What these programs will do is the idea is that they'll pull in tracking data. Long story short, when we're putting the telescope in the same place that James Webb is in. So at that Lagrangian point. That means we can see it from Earth constantly. We have something called the Deep Space Network. So we have stations in California, Spain, Japan and Australia. They're all over the globe. At one point, any of those stations can see the telescope, because again, the globe is spinning. So what we're doing is we're looking at as the telescope is flying overhead of the station, it's pinging where it is to get its location, and then we're running programs to predict its orbit and where it might go and the next. We can do anything from three days to two years.


Naomi Meredith  09:40

Oh, oh, that's a huge span.


Aaron Shepard  09:45

Yeah, so obviously, like as you go out further, it gets a little bit more inaccurate, but it's just to give us an idea. One thing that I wrote that was really cool is when we launch it out, it'll be within range of a network of tracking satellites that we have. So I wrote the procedure to tell the tracking satellites where to look, as the telescope launches out so that we can guess where it's going to be. If something happens at launch, because of course, I'm gonna watch the launch, but if something happens within the first few days, I'm gonna be like, Oh.


Naomi Meredith  10:24

Like, well, it's a team effort, guys. We're team-oriented.


Aaron Shepard  10:28

Exactly, yeah. But again, my day can look like a bunch of different things, and then occasionally actually get to go up to visit the center for testing or for tours. I got to actually see the telescope being built in the cleanroom. That's, like, really cool. It's, it's massive. It's, yeah, it's probably like 3045 feet tall. Like, it's just, it's big.


Naomi Meredith  10:52

Wow. That's so cool. And like with your experience, too, like, would you say? Like, looking back as a kid? Did you have experiences? Do you think that helped you do what you do today? Like you, your adult life for sure. But you're doing so much of collaborating, problem-solving and critical thinking in your daily life, do you think you had a lot of those experiences as a kid that helped you?


Aaron Shepard  11:17

Oh, yeah, from a soft skill perspective. So like collaborating and problem-solving? Definitely. I come from a really big family, so you got to learn how to say what you need. You got to learn how to work with other people and get along. Yeah,


Naomi Meredith  11:31

Yeah, I'm the oldest of five. So I totally get it.


Aaron Shepard  11:34

Yeah. So definitely that and then from just technical skills, like I was always, I was always a big nerd. So I was playing video games all the time, I was working on computers, it was, you know, building stuff, breaking stuff, all that. So I really think that, if anything, it just gives you a mindset of analytical problem-solving. Like I definitely, because I have broken so many things. I just understand the process of navigating problems. 


Naomi Meredith  12:02

Yeah, no, that's good. I think you and it doesn't always work the first time and I'm sure you see that in your job, like you have a lot of iteration and you're going back and you have to make sure like, it's so different doing anything like a program or whatever, but having to write it out explicitly for somebody else, I'm sure you see, oh, ooh, that's not good. Or that will make sense to somebody else. So that's so important to like, I see that with kids. And I think that's so important, why we have STEM because kids will get frustrated. It doesn't work the same, though first time, like, hey, it doesn't always work the first time doesn't even work the 20th time. And that's how life goes. And they get sad that their project isn't the perfect thing by Friday. And like, that's how it goes. Let's wag your hair. So definitely, when you mentioned those soft skills, I totally agree with you. That's really what we're teaching. You probably see that too when you work with kids, how important those soft skills are. So I'm so glad you mentioned that and you're using it in your real job. So yes, yeah. So speaking of what you've done, your wife tells me you went to Jamaica recently. I don't know how that all went down. I know it involves STEM. So what were you doing out in Jamaica?


Aaron Shepard  13:15

So I was part of a program called Passage. It's a really, really cool program. It was started by one of my friends. And his mission is to fly different classrooms, supplies, and science supplies to various countries throughout Latin America and the Caribbean. So he was in the Bahamas. He was in Jamaica. I think he's currently in Colombia right now. And then he goes to like Chile, Argentina. Whoa. And it's a big thing. Like, the program is involved with local governments. So while we were there in Jamaica, we actually met and had like 45 minutes to an hour conversation with the minister, the Ministry of Education, like when I got to meet the Minister of Education. And we had an incredible conversation about how we could leverage modern technology to solidify Jamaica's place as a tech hub in the Caribbean. We got to meet with the US Embassy, we got to meet with multiple universities, some high schools, I think, the aeronautical Institute of the West Indies, like it was a pretty cool experience.


Naomi Meredith  14:26

Oh, did you know you're going to meet all these people when you went down there? Like oh, oh, hello. Oh, hello. Oh, okay. You're high up there.


Aaron Shepard  14:35

Yeah, we knew I think everybody knew, but nobody realized how much gravity or weight this project would have.  On the Jamaica leg, these were real conversations. Like this was an Oh, like, that's a really cool policy that we can implement later kind of thing. It wasn't. At first it was at first it was pleasantries and you know, hi I'm so and so and this is so and so but as time went on like it, it really evolved and after we walked outside that meeting with the minister of education we were like this is a thing. And even now like the, the government of Colombia is like interested the Government of Colombia is promoting the project. And so this is this is gonna carry weight. And hopefully this idea for my friend will be something that propagates throughout the years. So I'm really excited to see what that is going to evolve into. And hopefully, I'm excited to continue being a part of it. Because, again, it was so much fun. We did meetings, we did workshops, I got to surround myself, I like to do a lot of robotics workshops with the kids and get them all like, excited and yellowing. And so it's just such good energy. I really enjoyed that trip. And it's part of for me, it's why I do what I do. Like at the end of the day, I chose this for a reason. And it's because it's it's to inspire and to plant trees whose shade I will probably never see, but that's okay.


Naomi Meredith  16:16

How do the kids respond seeing these types of technologies? Is it often their first time or how do they react? Like what kind of robots do you do with that? And that's a lot of questions I just asked you.


Aaron Shepard  16:28

Oh, yeah. So in general, so outside of the technology that I do, for example, while we were in Jamaica, we did stargazing events. And the last few nights have been great, because it's been a full moon. There's been Mars, Saturn, Jupiter, like so much to see. And for a lot of people on the island, that was the first time ever looking through a telescope. So watching that was just,


Naomi Meredith  16:51

oh, that's cool. I just got chills. That's amazing.


Aaron Shepard  16:57

Yeah, it's, um, and again, like, you don't really think about it until you see it because it's like, this is a telescope. I've got to I've, you know, these are things that are normal to you. But when you realize that it's the first time for somebody else, and you're watching, oh my gosh, like they can see like the moons of Jupiter and the clouds and the wings on Saturn and people are. It's a very powerful thing to witness.


Naomi Meredith  17:23

I've never seen that. So I think I would have the same reaction.


Aaron Shepard  17:28

Oh, yeah. It's actually the first time I looked at Jupiter, I saw the bright red spot. I was like, oh, it's like a NASA thing. Like, that's, I guess they're like, I didn't even like, you see the pictures of it. But it's like, oh, like, there it is.


Naomi Meredith  17:42

Oh, that's cool. Oh, my gosh, I can I can only imagine, especially with kids to, like they want to I mean, without so many things they see on the screen. Like, that's amazing. You see in real life. So was it just like that the whole time with the workshops to just interacting with all of the supplies? Did you just see that same sort of excitement?


Aaron Shepard  18:01

Yes, yes. Usually, when I, I do a lot of robotics work, because the robots are just awesome. They, and in particular, I do. I call them like my telekinetic mind control robots. I have these headsets, they can pick up like how you're thinking like it's not it's very broad. It's not like they can't realize that you're thinking cat. But it can measure if you're really concentrated or if you feel relaxed. And so then I have those headsets mapped to the robot. And so you can drive the robot thinking one way, and you can send it in one direction then you can send it back and the other ones and like usually when I see that kids are like, the look is always like and then when they do it, they're just like, what's


Naomi Meredith  18:54

Oh my gosh, your face right now people can see your face that's so funny. They're just like, “No way!” I would be too. So what does the robot do if you're confused, it just goes in circles.


Aaron Shepard  19:04

They just said it'll stop. It'll like go, it'll like go one way than the other. Like, it's actually like, if you've seen Star Wars, it's good. Like Jedi Mind Training. I got to really think about this. It's such a cool experience. And so this is something that I've been toying with for years. And so I've been demoing it, probably about six years now. And like I've done it, done a whole bunch of kids always love it. Every year. I'm like, should I do something else? And then people are like, no, no, just keep doing that. I'm like, alright, that's what you want. I mean, okay, we can do it.


Naomi Meredith  19:36

Yeah, we don't do that in class. I don't know I've heard of any STEM teachers. If I'm wrong, please message me but I haven't heard of any STEM teachers doing that in class. I don't think we have the robots and the capability for it. We probably don't have the funding to be honest.


Aaron Shepard  19:51

Well, it's not a terribly expensive thing. I mean, I can probably about maybe $300-400 total for everything. Okay, that's actually really good. Yeah, so I mean, and then I built my own versions for on like, probably like 250 300, like parts everything. But then a lot of it was me like, figuring things out and like having to go to the manufacturer and be like, Hey, what's your? What's your Bluetooth protocol? Like, what? How do I interface like I am people are very nice. Usually, if you ask and you tell them what you're doing, they're like, oh, yeah, sure, that's how you do it. But yeah, it's some, my philosophy was STEM has always been to, I'm going for the, I'm going for the wow factor, like, I'm going for the thing that makes you go, I didn't even know this was possible. And then the wow factor for me because like, the reality of what we do, and our field is that, you know, it's like, you sat through math class, it's boring. Sometimes you're like, huh, so if you go for the wow factor, and this is what I tell kids, it's like, it's it's the payoff for doing all of the work. So if you sit through, you pay attention to, like, the math and the physics and all that other stuff, where you're like, Yeah, I don't really care. That knowledge allows you to make really cool stuff. Like a flame thrower that I might be building.


Naomi Meredith  21:12

Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh, I mean, I'm sure that kids love you. And that's a great point, too. That's a great way to say I was talking to some kids at school the other day, and it made me so sad. And like, what are your favorite subject? I don't know how you're talking about what your favorite subjects were. I don't really ask that question. But anyway, they're saying that science is boring. Not STEM, not my class. Okay. That's a whole other thing. They didn't say my class. But science. I'm like, that makes me so sad to hear that and they are in second grade. And they're all Yeah, it's boring. We just watch videos on my own. No, no, no, no, no. So yeah, I definitely agree with that wow factor and exposing kids to a lot of different things. All of my units are completely different because you never know what a kid is going to connect with. Some kids might like robots some might like building with Makerspace some my like my STEM survival camp units, so you never know what they're going to connect with. So I totally agree, the more obscure the better. Because there's usually no background knowledge, which is great, because they have they have to learn to Yeah, so I love how that's a great philosophy like the wow factor. I love that. Do you? So you do that mind control robots with kids? Do you do other things in the community to help support some education?


Aaron Shepard  22:31

So for the past few years, it's been, I've done like different talks, I usually will do anything from like, overview of robotics. I run a TikTok account. And so I'll do crazy things on that. One video that like went really really well. I don't know if you remember the Oscars. But you know, when Will Smith did the slap thing? Oh, yeah. I like broke it down. Like got out the physics calculated, like how, how hard it was. And it was one of those things where like, it went viral. My mom called me she was like, did you do that? I was like, yes, Ma, she was like, That's hilarious. And so many comments, because I do try to go through my comments. So many comments were like, wow, like, I didn't even know, like, I'm gonna pay attention in class now. Like, this is awesome. And that's what I'm going for.


Naomi Meredith  23:23

That's so okay, I'm gonna have to find that. And then I'm gonna link it in the show notes for this episode, and then we'll watch it.


Aaron Shepard  23:31

Yeah, I'll definitely I'll send it to you. But I'm always looking for anything that I do. Like, sometimes it's hands-on. Sometimes it's just talking, I've done everything from talks on robots to talk like I've done talks on like all the African American astronauts, it just really depends. But my bigger kind of overarching goal, like the thing that is pushing why I do, what I do, is that I want to promote science, literacy and science appreciation. So I'm not an artist, but I have an appreciation for art, I can look at it, I can understand the basic themes. Like, I'm sure you've done the same thing where like, you've gone to the museum, and you can be like, Oh, well, this is, uh, this is impressionism, or this is a representation of the blah, blah, blah, that happen so and so time ago, but it just helps to shape a broader mind. And that was really like, I really noticed that during the pandemic, when we were not a scientifically literate society, and we paid for it. So that's when I was like, okay, like, like, let's, let's kind of personalize science. Let's make it something that people are at least familiar with. I'm not saying that every kid has to be a scientist, but every kid should be able to look at science and be like, okay, and have a profound respect for it.


Naomi Meredith  24:48

Oh, absolutely. All of my STEM lessons actually start with the science concepts and then weave in everything else because that's just how you like what we talked about. We're exploring the world in different ways, and it's super important. written. And yeah, this is just part of just you being a human. So that's really great. And that's funny too about the art that I was just talking about this with my fiancee this morning. He teaches high school Spanish, so completely different. And he was he's teaching about art right now and Spanish. And this is so horrible. I was like, Why do you even teach that? And I even really liked that comment, but he said exactly what you were saying. Like just to be a more well rounded and you know, and he's like because I've taught you you know what a Botero is and what it's showing. And I'm like, Yeah, that's true. So I probably shouldn't have said that wasn't very nice to me. But it was 5 am in the morning, so I wasn't very happy.


Aaron Shepard  25:44

Yeah, that's, yeah, I think so. All of Alexis' teacher friends, for instance, but one year, you know, back, especially when I was young, and I just like a little bit more, you know, I have a little bit more spunk to me. And I would just kind of, I hadn't really been broken in yet. I don't know what we were talking about. But I think I got upset or something. And I was like, so what, you teachers get summers off anyway? Like, why are you complaining? Yeah, She had whipped around so fast. And I was like, I shouldn't have said,


Naomi Meredith  26:18

like, yeah, yeah, you know what? I'll, yeah, that's a whole other that's a whole podcast in itself.


Aaron Shepard  26:23

Oh, those are fighting words. I quickly realized that that was just like, oh, like, if you could have seen the look on her face, I was like, I'm scared.


Naomi Meredith  26:35

That's pretty funny. So sweet. Well, we know what not to say to teachers. But do you have any advice for kids or teachers that could be separate or the same to help encourage them to help dream big, whether it isn't STEM, you have great philosophies in STEM in general, and I hope people reach out to you, but what advice do you have?


Aaron Shepard  26:58

This just comes from my own personal philosophy, I am a big-picture, then-details kind of dude. And so whenever I'm like trying to teach something, or like when it comes to the subject of teaching STEM, I'm always thinking about the applications. Because at the end of the day, that's what we're really in it for. I don't really care about the Pythagorean theorem, just for the sake of it. I mean, there are some people that do, and that's great. And they make great mathematicians. And yeah, I understand that if I know Pythagorean theorem, then I can, you know, write this control policy for my spider robot because, guess what, it makes a big triangle. And so I can model it that way. You know, I may not necessarily, I don't really care about differential equations for the sake of differential equations. But if I'm modeling a spacecraft that's coming into the atmosphere, and it's got to break and land, otherwise, you lose this billion dollar probe, then all of a sudden, my interest in my investment is hiked up a little bit more. So I'm always like, start with the end, and then build out from there. When I am teaching STEM, when I think about teaching STEM, I'm always focused on the applications first because that's what creates the investment. And that's what makes it stick to people or stick with people.


Naomi Meredith  28:15

I think that's really great advice. And just that we're not doing arts and crafts all day that there is that real world application. And even if it even that, if the application is simple, thinking about a five-year-old, that's gonna look way different than with a high school teacher, but all kids can learn now they're all capable. There are applications to everything that we're doing and everything we're teaching, but there's so much in STEM. And I think just how STEM education is evolving in the elementary space, just taking it to the next level, having it be rooted in science and math and engineering concepts where we're not just playing with Legos today. Or we're we all just building with blocks? Like there's a purpose behind there's so much opportunity and just a bigger picture as to what we're doing. So I think that's really good advice coming from someone who works at NASA, and you apply these skills that are really good to hear. That's something definitely, as teachers, especially in the STEM space, should be doing so. Yours. I could talk to you all day, and you can get Alexis back on No, just kidding. No, but where it gets teachers to find and connect with you. You have a bunch of places they can reach out to.


Aaron Shepard  29:25

Ah, yeah, all my handles are the same. @Spacecadetshep, that's Instagram, Twitter, and TicTok. I don't know if I'm going to stay on Twitter too much longer, but that's another conversation in and of itself. But yes, I try to make myself pretty available. And again, my thing is, my big thing in STEM with teachers with students is applications and then collaboration like at the end of the day, like this is a science is it is a collaborative thing. So as I think the image of like the lone dude in his garage, first of all, that's not that's inaccurate for numerous reasons. One, it doesn't have to be a dude, it can be, it can be a woman, it, you know, scientists can look so many ways but then too it's a very like group oriented collaborative project. And so again, I'm just about connecting and building the community, and just even being a conduit to other people in the community or, like, the passage program where like, they're literally some of the best and brightest people in the business of STEM and science communication. And so just being able to bridge all that together is that's my MO.


Naomi Meredith  30:43

I love it is super inspiring, and I appreciate you doing what you're doing and supporting STEM and just helping just bring that to light. And we need more people like you out there. Aaron. Thank you so much for being here today. We appreciate I know other teachers gonna love hearing from Euro. There are so many great, I was taking notes the whole time. So thank you so much again for your time, and we'll chat soon. Thank you.


Aaron Shepard  31:10

Yes, thank you for having me. It was it's always so much fun to do things like this. And yes, I I have enjoyed every second of it. And I just love talking STEM. I love the education part of it. The technical part. Love it all. Like it's so incredible.


Naomi Meredith  31:27

Same here. I could do it all day, man. I pay to pretty much do so I got it. Oh, thank you again.


Aaron Shepard  31:34

Yes, thank you.

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Naomi Meredith is a former classroom teacher turned current K-5 STEM teacher and coach. Her role not only includes teaching over 500 students in her school, but also leading professional development and co-teaching with teachers to help them integrate STEM & Technology.

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